I'm sorry I misread what you were saying as the thread came from one saying government control of force is not rquired as an open market on force is an alternat

I'm sorry I misread what you were saying as the thread came from one saying government control of force is not rquired as an open market on force is an alternative. I find a libertarian position much more defensible (at least as something that doesn't implode) with a caveat that there is some form of monopoly on force that is external to the market.