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I recently bought the first Windows computer I have had in years. It came with Windows 8. What a disaster. In a few days I upgraded to Windows 8.1 which made th

I recently bought the first Windows computer I have had in years. It came with Windows 8. What a disaster. In a few days I upgraded to Windows 8.1 which made things a bit better. You can right click on a start menu button and pretty much get a much reduced functional start menu and boot into desktop mode by default. I'm glad Microsoft is backtracking on this. What they did was bold, but the product they forced down everyone's throat was just so terrible. Maybe it was innovative, but so much functionality and customizability was stripped. The Windows Store is a joke. I hate metro apps, I hate that Skype is a metro app, it's the only one I use and it bugs me that I can't put it on the desktop somewhere. I just want metro to go away forever. Luckily under the hood is still that vaunted desktop Windows from old. It just needs to come back as soon as possible.

hamanahamana 13y ago
http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-windows/downloading/ http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-windows/dow...
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eCa 13y ago
http://www.classicshell.net/ http://www.classicshell.net/ or http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/ http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/ gives you the start menu it should've shipped with.
sequence7 13y ago
Could you explain what it is that you actually hate about Windows 8? I keep on seeing this sentiment and I just don't get it. I've been using it since it was released and it just feels like 7 with a flatter desktop and a different start menu. I get that a lot of people lost their minds when there wasn't a button that you could click to get to the start menu but since that's been added in 8.1 if you want to completely ignore the new UI you pretty much can. Is it just the fact that things have changed that causes all the hate or is there some rational explanation that I'm completely missing? You're right the Windows Store is pretty feeble but if you hate it's easy to ignore.
- leobelle 13y ago
  Death by a thousand cuts. What I hate is moving my mouse to the corner by accident during a DayZ fire fight and windows charms covering up my screen. What I hate about Windows 8 is having 3 or 4 different settings panes. What I hate about Windows 8 is having to relearn how to open up settings. What I hate about Windows 8 is that it has two kinds of applications, from apparently two different universes and they can't interact, or if they can I can't figure it out. I just pretend one of them doesn't exist. What I hate about Windows 8 is that I have to right click on start button. What I hate about Windows 8 is that if I want to hit a keyboard short cut that requires the windows key and I make a mistake I'm looking at the Metro screen. When it comes to Metro I hate everything about it, including the little tiny arrow on the bottom right that brings up a second start menu like thing. The little label-less arrows that take you to some kind of app view that's littered with every exe on the computer and scrolls horizontally. Have you seen the way the windows selection charm works? You drag your mouse into the top corner, then drag down to see all the open applications, this list also includes metro applications. The Windows 8 search thing is not even remotely as good as the old Windows 7 search in the start menu and it's only available in metro. I can go on but I'm tired of being angry and annoyed.
  - sequence7 13y ago
    > What I hate is moving my mouse to the corner by accident during a DayZ fire fight and windows charms covering up my screen. Turn off corner navigation. > What I hate about Windows 8 is that it has two kinds of applications, from apparently two different universes and they can't interact, or if they can I can't figure it out. I just pretend one of them doesn't exist. Metro and desktop applications can and do happily interact, I don't understand what you mean here. > What I hate about Windows 8 is that I have to right click on start button Why do you have to? You get a menu if you do but you don't have to, you used to get a menu if you right clicked the start button in Windows 7 > You drag your mouse into the top corner, then drag down to see all the open applications, this list also includes metro applications. Just use Alt-Tab it works like it always has, you don't even need to see Metro > The Windows 8 search thing is not even remotely as good as the old Windows 7 search Here I have to respectfully disagree, IMHO the search in 8 is way better than in 7 Without wanting to make you even more angry and annoyed every one of the other issues seems to basically boil down to things have changed a bit and I don't like change.

hamanahamana 13y ago

http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-windows/downloading/ http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-windows/dow...

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eCa 13y ago

http://www.classicshell.net/ http://www.classicshell.net/ or http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/ http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/ gives you the start menu it should've shipped with.

sequence7 13y ago

Could you explain what it is that you actually hate about Windows 8? I keep on seeing this sentiment and I just don't get it. I've been using it since it was released and it just feels like 7 with a flatter desktop and a different start menu. I get that a lot of people lost their minds when there wasn't a button that you could click to get to the start menu but since that's been added in 8.1 if you want to completely ignore the new UI you pretty much can. Is it just the fact that things have changed that causes all the hate or is there some rational explanation that I'm completely missing? You're right the Windows Store is pretty feeble but if you hate it's easy to ignore.

leobelle 13y ago
Death by a thousand cuts. What I hate is moving my mouse to the corner by accident during a DayZ fire fight and windows charms covering up my screen. What I hate about Windows 8 is having 3 or 4 different settings panes. What I hate about Windows 8 is having to relearn how to open up settings. What I hate about Windows 8 is that it has two kinds of applications, from apparently two different universes and they can't interact, or if they can I can't figure it out. I just pretend one of them doesn't exist. What I hate about Windows 8 is that I have to right click on start button. What I hate about Windows 8 is that if I want to hit a keyboard short cut that requires the windows key and I make a mistake I'm looking at the Metro screen. When it comes to Metro I hate everything about it, including the little tiny arrow on the bottom right that brings up a second start menu like thing. The little label-less arrows that take you to some kind of app view that's littered with every exe on the computer and scrolls horizontally. Have you seen the way the windows selection charm works? You drag your mouse into the top corner, then drag down to see all the open applications, this list also includes metro applications. The Windows 8 search thing is not even remotely as good as the old Windows 7 search in the start menu and it's only available in metro. I can go on but I'm tired of being angry and annoyed.
- sequence7 13y ago
  > What I hate is moving my mouse to the corner by accident during a DayZ fire fight and windows charms covering up my screen. Turn off corner navigation. > What I hate about Windows 8 is that it has two kinds of applications, from apparently two different universes and they can't interact, or if they can I can't figure it out. I just pretend one of them doesn't exist. Metro and desktop applications can and do happily interact, I don't understand what you mean here. > What I hate about Windows 8 is that I have to right click on start button Why do you have to? You get a menu if you do but you don't have to, you used to get a menu if you right clicked the start button in Windows 7 > You drag your mouse into the top corner, then drag down to see all the open applications, this list also includes metro applications. Just use Alt-Tab it works like it always has, you don't even need to see Metro > The Windows 8 search thing is not even remotely as good as the old Windows 7 search Here I have to respectfully disagree, IMHO the search in 8 is way better than in 7 Without wanting to make you even more angry and annoyed every one of the other issues seems to basically boil down to things have changed a bit and I don't like change.