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"Danny paid Bethany about $30,000 in various costs to have their first child while he worked a full-time tech job" I wonder what her bid was for him to have th

"Danny paid Bethany about $30,000 in various costs to have their first child while he worked a full-time tech job" I wonder what her bid was for him to have the baby.

bhaumik 13y ago
There's no bartering in the bedroom, they say.
Aloisius 13y ago
I wonder what her bid was for him to have the baby. It would have to have been considerably more than $30,000. Surrogacy alone runs upwards of $60K. She was clearly lowballed. The inefficiency was probably due to a lack of market transparency or external bidding. Clearly next time they should invite third parties in.
- LaughingWithAtU 13y ago
  Assuming $60k for a surrogate then the "winning bid" for not having the baby herself would be around $30k. Also, what is the value to her to experience the process of having a baby? Ubber-rich women still have their own babies, so there would appear to be a value in the experience.
lutorm 13y ago
This is a good point. There are some things that aren't fungible. Since this was a job that Danny couldn't do, he couldn't bid on it, so that essentially makes it a sole-source, no-bid contract, and those are priceless. Another question I have: what about requirements? (this has come up in my own relationship) Suppose the two partners have different ideas of what constitutes "cleaning the house". One might think that mopping and wiping dust off furniture is necessary, while the other might think vacuuming does it. In a real situation, the two contractors don't just compete on price but on product. But in this case product never enters, unless there's a careful discussion up front about exactly what the requirements of the job are. This doesn't really sound like it would decrease stress to me.
- pndmnm 13y ago
  > Suppose the two partners have different ideas of what constitutes "cleaning the house". This is essentially how my partner and I have divided up housework -- the person whose requirements for "done" are a superset of the other's does the chore. Fortunately we're fairly balanced in that regard.
  - eru 13y ago
    Oh, the power of low standards?
    - sliverstorm 13y ago
      No, the other way around. The one who is pickier about dishwashing, washes the dishes.
      - lutorm 13y ago
        Doesn't that have the unfortunate side effect of making the person who is already more annoyed at the state of things even more annoyed at always having to fix them?
        sliverstorm 13y ago
        I wouldn't think so, at least in an ongoing plan. For example, I tend to load the dishwasher because many people I've lived with are not good at loading it for best cleaning. So long as I'm not doing everything else as well, it doesn't bother me.
        eru 13y ago
        Yes. But there's an incentive with that system to turn into a total sloth.

"Danny paid Bethany about $30,000 in various costs to have their first child while he worked a full-time tech job" I wonder what her bid was for him to have the baby.

bhaumik 13y ago

There's no bartering in the bedroom, they say.

Aloisius 13y ago

I wonder what her bid was for him to have the baby. It would have to have been considerably more than $30,000. Surrogacy alone runs upwards of $60K. She was clearly lowballed. The inefficiency was probably due to a lack of market transparency or external bidding. Clearly next time they should invite third parties in.

LaughingWithAtU 13y ago
Assuming $60k for a surrogate then the "winning bid" for not having the baby herself would be around $30k. Also, what is the value to her to experience the process of having a baby? Ubber-rich women still have their own babies, so there would appear to be a value in the experience.

lutorm 13y ago

This is a good point. There are some things that aren't fungible. Since this was a job that Danny couldn't do, he couldn't bid on it, so that essentially makes it a sole-source, no-bid contract, and those are priceless. Another question I have: what about requirements? (this has come up in my own relationship) Suppose the two partners have different ideas of what constitutes "cleaning the house". One might think that mopping and wiping dust off furniture is necessary, while the other might think vacuuming does it. In a real situation, the two contractors don't just compete on price but on product. But in this case product never enters, unless there's a careful discussion up front about exactly what the requirements of the job are. This doesn't really sound like it would decrease stress to me.

pndmnm 13y ago
> Suppose the two partners have different ideas of what constitutes "cleaning the house". This is essentially how my partner and I have divided up housework -- the person whose requirements for "done" are a superset of the other's does the chore. Fortunately we're fairly balanced in that regard.
- eru 13y ago
  Oh, the power of low standards?
  - sliverstorm 13y ago
    No, the other way around. The one who is pickier about dishwashing, washes the dishes.
    - lutorm 13y ago
      Doesn't that have the unfortunate side effect of making the person who is already more annoyed at the state of things even more annoyed at always having to fix them?
      - sliverstorm 13y ago
        I wouldn't think so, at least in an ongoing plan. For example, I tend to load the dishwasher because many people I've lived with are not good at loading it for best cleaning. So long as I'm not doing everything else as well, it doesn't bother me.
        eru 13y ago
        Yes. But there's an incentive with that system to turn into a total sloth.