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I don't love libertarians and their ilk any more than you do, but in fairness I have to say this doesn't read to me like a request for government intervention,

by aaronem 13y ago

I don't love libertarians and their ilk any more than you do, but in fairness I have to say this doesn't read to me like a request for government intervention, so much as a "Let's you and him fight" suggestion that the users who got ripped off go after the users he claims did the ripping. The idea, I think, is that if enough jilted users get together to make life miserable for the people who supposedly did the thieving, then it'll be in their self-interest to return the stolen bitcoins and make everything be OK again. Or something. On the other hand, there's nothing that's not funny about seeing a hardcore libertarian find whiny refuge in the clichés of Communism: > Being a part of this movement might be the most defining thing you do with your entire life. Don’t trade that for greed, comrades. And, whatever you do, don't start thinking I'm to blame for this unbelievable fuckup that wouldn't have been possible in the first place if I hadn't done something stupid! No, it's all that guy's fault.

zedshaw 13y ago
Even then, he's saying that all the claims of the new DPR to be peaceful are bullshit, and again that everyone should band together and get him, contradicting the objectivist mindset. Either he's asking the government for help, or asking a pseudo-government lynch mob for justice, and either is hypocritical.
- aaronem 13y ago
  Oh, I don't know about that; I have never seen any philosophical incompatibility between libertarianism or Objectivism and lynch mobs, so long as said lynch mobs are true mobs and not organized by a state actor -- the SA, for example, wouldn't qualify, but some of the Black Hundreds probably would. The "self-interest" idea covers such matters quite handily: it is, after all, quite plainly in one's self-interest not to do things which move his neighbors to organize a lynching bee. So, you know, an atrocious and unconscionable doctrine appealing only to people who have some serious problems with thinking of other people as people, yes, but hypocritical? Nah, not so much.
ufmace 13y ago
Which makes me think, whatever happened to the supposed commitment to non-violence/non-initiation of force, of both Libertarians and the new DPR? Yeah, guys, I'm sure the purpose of trying to rally a bunch of people together and find out the real life location of the thief has nothing to do with inflicting any physical harm on them.

by aaronem 13y ago

zedshaw 13y ago

Even then, he's saying that all the claims of the new DPR to be peaceful are bullshit, and again that everyone should band together and get him, contradicting the objectivist mindset. Either he's asking the government for help, or asking a pseudo-government lynch mob for justice, and either is hypocritical.

aaronem 13y ago
Oh, I don't know about that; I have never seen any philosophical incompatibility between libertarianism or Objectivism and lynch mobs, so long as said lynch mobs are true mobs and not organized by a state actor -- the SA, for example, wouldn't qualify, but some of the Black Hundreds probably would. The "self-interest" idea covers such matters quite handily: it is, after all, quite plainly in one's self-interest not to do things which move his neighbors to organize a lynching bee. So, you know, an atrocious and unconscionable doctrine appealing only to people who have some serious problems with thinking of other people as people, yes, but hypocritical? Nah, not so much.

ufmace 13y ago

Which makes me think, whatever happened to the supposed commitment to non-violence/non-initiation of force, of both Libertarians and the new DPR? Yeah, guys, I'm sure the purpose of trying to rally a bunch of people together and find out the real life location of the thief has nothing to do with inflicting any physical harm on them.