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Your logic seems wrong for the causality. We destroyed wealth because of the world wars, which then caused "rising equality". I do not believe the world wars

by guylhem 13y ago

Your logic seems wrong for the causality. We destroyed wealth because of the world wars, which then caused "rising equality". I do not believe the world wars happened due to inequality - so no, I'm not worried.

mkr-hn 13y ago
The National Socialist German Workers' Party would like to have a word with you.
- arethuza 13y ago
  I think Hitler was rather more cynical than that - when he wanted to exploit socialists to achieve his ends he supported socialism. However, after the Röhm purge (AKA "The Night of the Long Knives") most of the socialists within the party were removed (and often killed) - making the Nazis far more acceptable to the rich industrialists and military leaders that Hitler needed support from to get total power.
  - ItendToDisagree 13y ago
    While what you say is true it does not change the fact that one of the main leverages used by Hitler was the economic inequality that the German public believed had been foisted upon them by the other European powers. Regardless of how the Reich was built, or oriented politically, economic inequality (and nationalism) were a primary tool used to gain momentum. You are totally correct that German leaders of business and holders of wealth were courted into the Reich. Many of them from Bayer to IG Farben benefited directly from the concentration camps.
angersock 13y ago
Tell me, if the aristocracy and monied interests (directly enabled by vast income inequality) hadn't existed, would WW1 have happened? If the economic suppression of Germany by the rest of Europe and the Great Depression hadn't happened (global income inequality, after a fashion), would WW2 have happened?
- nickff 13y ago
  You are attempting to make assertions in high causal density situations; the evidence supports an infinite number of conclusions, and yours are not particularly convincing.
- jsnell 13y ago
  At that level you might as well argue that WWI was caused by agriculture, because without agriculture the war would not have happened. Any history without aristocracy or monied interests would be likewise completely unrecognizable. But neither social nor economic inequality plays any significant part in any credible narrative on the causes of the war that I've read. (And I've read many).
Iftheshoefits 13y ago
> I do not believe the world wars happened due to inequality - so no, I'm not worried. Do you not believe the earth is more than 4,000 years old and that we evolved from other forms of life eons ago as well? Some things are already established as fact; not everything is an opinion, not all opinions are valid, and the ones you've stated are just flat-out contradictory with actual real data.

by guylhem 13y ago

mkr-hn 13y ago

The National Socialist German Workers' Party would like to have a word with you.

arethuza 13y ago
I think Hitler was rather more cynical than that - when he wanted to exploit socialists to achieve his ends he supported socialism. However, after the Röhm purge (AKA "The Night of the Long Knives") most of the socialists within the party were removed (and often killed) - making the Nazis far more acceptable to the rich industrialists and military leaders that Hitler needed support from to get total power.
- ItendToDisagree 13y ago
  While what you say is true it does not change the fact that one of the main leverages used by Hitler was the economic inequality that the German public believed had been foisted upon them by the other European powers. Regardless of how the Reich was built, or oriented politically, economic inequality (and nationalism) were a primary tool used to gain momentum. You are totally correct that German leaders of business and holders of wealth were courted into the Reich. Many of them from Bayer to IG Farben benefited directly from the concentration camps.

angersock 13y ago

Tell me, if the aristocracy and monied interests (directly enabled by vast income inequality) hadn't existed, would WW1 have happened? If the economic suppression of Germany by the rest of Europe and the Great Depression hadn't happened (global income inequality, after a fashion), would WW2 have happened?

nickff 13y ago
You are attempting to make assertions in high causal density situations; the evidence supports an infinite number of conclusions, and yours are not particularly convincing.
jsnell 13y ago
At that level you might as well argue that WWI was caused by agriculture, because without agriculture the war would not have happened. Any history without aristocracy or monied interests would be likewise completely unrecognizable. But neither social nor economic inequality plays any significant part in any credible narrative on the causes of the war that I've read. (And I've read many).

Iftheshoefits 13y ago

> I do not believe the world wars happened due to inequality - so no, I'm not worried. Do you not believe the earth is more than 4,000 years old and that we evolved from other forms of life eons ago as well? Some things are already established as fact; not everything is an opinion, not all opinions are valid, and the ones you've stated are just flat-out contradictory with actual real data.