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When this discipline was first starting to kick off I remember a little experiment done to tap into and code the DNA of a particular strain of bacterium (proba

When this discipline was first starting to kick off I remember a little experiment done to tap into and code the DNA of a particular strain of bacterium (probably similar to this E-coli). In doing so the playful scientists encoded the phrase "I am the riddle of life, solve me!" into junk DNA sections of the organism.... it always made me feel a little queasy thinking about it being found by whatever civilization is around a thousand years from now! What would it do to their fundamental picture of life? I'm sure the same could be said about organic computation. It's an open-ended chaotic system, where really all we control is the initial starting conditions. Who's to know that after we've got our "answer" the continued adaptation leads to something vastly beyond our control/comprehension. I guess it's all part of the "ghost in the machine" paranoia surrounding AI, except these things will not be ghosts and the machine is DNA..... </alarmist diatribe>

jacquesm 17y ago
To really get your head spinning, what if you used 'strings' on your own dna and you found some interesting ascii segments in there, on 4 billion basepairs the chances of finding something interesting are pretty good ;)
- antaeos 17y ago
  But remember, we see faces in clouds. We seem predisposed to bullshit our selves in similar fashion.
  - nopassrecover 17y ago
    That's what he was saying..
  - cma 17y ago
    That probably has much more to do with a specialized part of the bran that provides an intensive face processing and retrieval mechanism than it does with some fully generalized predisposition.
- Agathos 17y ago
  Remember that book, The Bible Code? And remember how it worked on any book, such as Moby Dick? Someone should plug the published human genome(s) into it.
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    see 'a beautiful mind'. We are pattern recognizers, feed us random noise and we'll see patterns. DNA is not exactly random noise, but for this purpose it is probably close enough.
- theblackbox 17y ago
  Similar "logic" has inspired a number of scientists to attempt to "decode" the background microwave radiation of the universe as it has the capacity to hold the first act of Romeo and Juliet (dunno how many bits of information that comes too) ... but the idea was that IF a creator wanted to leave a message that could be found by any significantly technologically advanced organism, this would be the best place to shove it But like another poster said - we are pattern recognition machines. Coincidences, faces, conspiracies and their ilk just leap to the forefront of our attention.... I wonder if their couldn't be a little bit of this phenomena at work in this study? Not read enough of the primary material to see if it's something they've consciously tried to factor out of the experiments
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    I wasn't thinking of Romeo and Juliet but the cosmic bacground noise has it in there, if only I remembered the offset... Finding "killroy was here" in your own DNA would surely make you wonder though :)
Agathos 17y ago
In a thousand years, with no selective pressure to preserve it, the phrase would mutate beyond recognition and probably be deleted altogether.

jacquesm 17y ago

To really get your head spinning, what if you used 'strings' on your own dna and you found some interesting ascii segments in there, on 4 billion basepairs the chances of finding something interesting are pretty good ;)

antaeos 17y ago
But remember, we see faces in clouds. We seem predisposed to bullshit our selves in similar fashion.
- nopassrecover 17y ago
  That's what he was saying..
- cma 17y ago
  That probably has much more to do with a specialized part of the bran that provides an intensive face processing and retrieval mechanism than it does with some fully generalized predisposition.
Agathos 17y ago
Remember that book, The Bible Code? And remember how it worked on any book, such as Moby Dick? Someone should plug the published human genome(s) into it.
- jacquesm 17y ago
  see 'a beautiful mind'. We are pattern recognizers, feed us random noise and we'll see patterns. DNA is not exactly random noise, but for this purpose it is probably close enough.
theblackbox 17y ago
Similar "logic" has inspired a number of scientists to attempt to "decode" the background microwave radiation of the universe as it has the capacity to hold the first act of Romeo and Juliet (dunno how many bits of information that comes too) ... but the idea was that IF a creator wanted to leave a message that could be found by any significantly technologically advanced organism, this would be the best place to shove it But like another poster said - we are pattern recognition machines. Coincidences, faces, conspiracies and their ilk just leap to the forefront of our attention.... I wonder if their couldn't be a little bit of this phenomena at work in this study? Not read enough of the primary material to see if it's something they've consciously tried to factor out of the experiments
- jacquesm 17y ago
  I wasn't thinking of Romeo and Juliet but the cosmic bacground noise has it in there, if only I remembered the offset... Finding "killroy was here" in your own DNA would surely make you wonder though :)

Agathos 17y ago

In a thousand years, with no selective pressure to preserve it, the phrase would mutate beyond recognition and probably be deleted altogether.