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And how would this 'FU ComcastWarner' work in America? Anywhere you live you only have the choice of paying your cable provider, your telephone carrier or your
by ulfw 13y ago
And how would this 'FU ComcastWarner' work in America? Anywhere you live you only have the choice of paying your cable provider, your telephone carrier or your wireless carrier for internet.
- DSL infrastructure hasn't evolved in a decade or more. You're lucky to get mid-single digit megabits/sec. I had 0.7 mpbs offered to me in Mountain View by at&t.
- Cable is the only speedy one, but they can price gouge you, limit the amount of traffic (see Comcast) and decide who to prioritize
- Wireless is getting faster, but is severely limited in transfer packages. You'd be paying an arm and leg just to get a few Gigabytes in total per month.
So tell me - how does this 'FU ComcastWarner' gonna work? Move to the one or two towns that have alternative internet (e.g. Fibre)?
- 00rion 13y agoWe could all pressure our local governments to provide municipal internet. Many cities have already created services that are much faster too.
- rjbwork 13y agoUnless/until the state or local governments pass laws that make that illegal and grant even stronger de facto monopolies to the cable companies.
- officemonkey 13y agoWe control our government. If they fail to act in our best interest it is our fault.
- kdot 13y agoYou're being very naive, Comcast has more control and access to government then 'we'.
- officemonkey 13y agoCurrently.
- oh_sigh 13y agoFuturely too.
- Florin_Andrei 13y agoOne man, one vote. One fat wallet, one million votes.
- kjs3 13y agoToo late. The DSL & Cable monopolies are lobbying like hell to make municipal broadband illegal, and have succeeded many places.
- Florin_Andrei 13y agoInternet providers need to quit playing these shenanigans all the time. What they do is they build public roads. You wouldn't allow a company to build a public road, and then go: "Safeway trucks get a free pass, cause we have a deal with them; everyone else, $5 per vehicle. Except for you, Best Buy, you pay $25 - except Saturday and Sunday, when you may not pass at all."
- quadyeast 13y ago... Best Buy pays more than anyone else? Hm, this is starting to sound good.
- __david__ 13y agoWell, I do see signs on side streets all the time that say "no trucks over 3 tons". And I've seen parking signs that had incomprehensible terms. I agree with your position, but I think your analogy is tortured.
- Florin_Andrei 13y agoI also see police on the roads, that prevent random lunatics from driving while tripping balls and ramming into my ass at 150 km/h during my morning commute. I think that's also a function of government. Secondly, if you think the "no trucks over 3 tons" signs impinge on your "liberty", then go ahead and drive a 25 ton truck down that road, see what happens. I'm having this discussion about "liberty" versus common sense with my 3rd grade son all the time.
- __david__ 13y agoI certainly never said "no trucks over 3 tons" impinges anyone's liberty. I was implying that "no trucks over 3 tons" is equivalent to saying "no one is allowed to consume more than X amount of bandwidth" on my public pipe, which is exactly how the network providers are going to couch their arguments when trying to strangle Netflix.
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- talmand 13y agoKeep in mind that in some cases the municipals are sued by the companies that can't be bothered to implement quality broadband for trying to implement quality broadband. Makes me wonder if it'll have to get to the point that a municipality says fuck you to both the broadband provider suing them and the county/state courts that allow such nonsense to implement their broadband anyway.
- 00rion 13y agomunicipal internet
- ulfw 13y agoSure. But how many 'municipal' providers are there in places where a lot of the HN activity lies (i.e. SF/Silicon Valley) in say Mountain View, Palo Alto, Santa Clara, Redwood City, Menlo Park, San Mateo, Cupertino, Los Altos etc? It's a small patchwork all over the country.
- geargrinder 13y agoWhen municipalities offer cable they roll out with a competitive package but often fall behind in technology over time because they are slow to upgrade and have no leverage with content providers. I imagine it would be the same for internet.
- talmand 13y agoWhy would they need leverage with content providers? I don't want content from my municipal, I want access to the content of my choosing. Let me deal with content providers on my own terms.
- canvia 13y agoThe latency on cellular internet makes it unusable for many applications like gaming.
- Phlarp 13y agoI've played many games of Starcraft on a Verizon LTE connection. Many (most?) online games have 250ms of latency "built in" to even the playing field for users with ping times below 250ms. LTE latency is usually closer to 50ms
- sexmonad 13y agoTwitch shooters, at least, definitely do _not_ have built in latency, and 250ms is unplayable.
- deelowe 13y ago250ms is probably ok for RTSs and turn based games, but would not work for anything fast paced.
- jordo37 13y agoI am confused how RTSes are not fast paced. I can't imagine any FPS has players do the same levels of Actions per minute [1] as some good RTS players. [1] http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Actions_per_minute http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Actions_per_minute
- deelowe 13y agoIt's pretty easy to do lag compensation on RTSs. You have the server run a copy of the game locally and just sync with the clients. Typically, RTSs have a lot of actions, but timing isn't as crucial. So, if things get out of sync, you just buffer until you everything catches back up again. You can even do things like vary the speed of the game (FPS) without the players noticing much. With games that rely on precise timing as a core mechanics (e.g. a shooter, fighting, or rhythm), the player is going to notice that an action took 10ms and then the next time they did it, it took 20, because they'll actually miss their target.