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I don't get the anger at this. They're talking about pre-populating the tiles with some websites before you fill them up with your own most visited sites.

by panacea 13y ago

chris_wot 13y ago
I can only really speak for myself, but the reason I feel angry is because advertising is a manipulative and often dishonest industry. Mozilla is the total antithesis of this, and it seems very wrong the way it was announced and the manner in which it was done. I certainly don't see any discussion around the decision - who made the decision to prepopulate the tiles? Where is the original debate? How involved was the IAB in this decision? When did this get decided and for how long now? What stakeholders were notified? What about privacy concerns - how will these ads target me? I don't want Firefox to turn into some sort of Facebook where my data isn't safe. There are no details about how they will achieve this increased advertising. In the original blog post, they have said they will target advertising via the country you are residing in - but what other data will it start detecting? All very worrying.
- panacea 13y ago
  You think Mozilla will ride the slippery slope to promoting malware or something in the tiles? It will be links to decent sponsors webpages I'll bet. Their announcement has been filtered through asshole media.
- joveian 13y ago
  I'm guessing they aren't going to do tracking yet, but I agree the "we're going to start advertising for the users" presentation is super worrying. This is advanced doublethink. If they can't be honest about the most reasonable changes then I don't trust that they won't at some point make unreasonable changes and simply not mention them. It sounds like they may be trying to copy Opera so take a look at what Opera is doing to see where they might be headed.

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I don't get the anger at this. They're talking about pre-populating the tiles with some websites before you fill them up with your own most visited sites.

by panacea 13y ago

I don't get the anger at this. They're talking about pre-populating the tiles with some websites before you fill them up with your own most visited sites.

chris_wot 13y ago
I can only really speak for myself, but the reason I feel angry is because advertising is a manipulative and often dishonest industry. Mozilla is the total antithesis of this, and it seems very wrong the way it was announced and the manner in which it was done. I certainly don't see any discussion around the decision - who made the decision to prepopulate the tiles? Where is the original debate? How involved was the IAB in this decision? When did this get decided and for how long now? What stakeholders were notified? What about privacy concerns - how will these ads target me? I don't want Firefox to turn into some sort of Facebook where my data isn't safe. There are no details about how they will achieve this increased advertising. In the original blog post, they have said they will target advertising via the country you are residing in - but what other data will it start detecting? All very worrying.
- panacea 13y ago
  You think Mozilla will ride the slippery slope to promoting malware or something in the tiles? It will be links to decent sponsors webpages I'll bet. Their announcement has been filtered through asshole media.
- joveian 13y ago
  I'm guessing they aren't going to do tracking yet, but I agree the "we're going to start advertising for the users" presentation is super worrying. This is advanced doublethink. If they can't be honest about the most reasonable changes then I don't trust that they won't at some point make unreasonable changes and simply not mention them. It sounds like they may be trying to copy Opera so take a look at what Opera is doing to see where they might be headed.