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Don't they have enough money from Google? They must make at least one dollar a year from each user through search. One would guess... Or is Google finally cutt

by rplnt 13y ago

Don't they have enough money from Google? They must make at least one dollar a year from each user through search. One would guess... Or is Google finally cutting into that? Just another way to get rid of competing browsers? Sadly Bing isn't an alternative outside of US (and I'm not even sure about that).

kevingadd 13y ago
Define 'enough money'. Should they cut back every non-essential employee until they have 5 people in a room, one of them responsible for all Firefox development? Should they assume that the Google revenue party will last forever, despite the fact that Google clearly is motivated to get all users on their own browser? I think it makes sense to diversify the ways they can earn money, and advertising is a reasonable approach as long as it's honest. Nothing here seems to indicate that they will be disguising advertisements or sacrificing usability in favor of advertisements.
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  > Should they assume that the Google revenue party will last forever, despite the fact that Google clearly is motivated to get all users on their own browser? Building an additional layer of advertising into the FF browser is a good way to advance Google's goal of getting all users on Google's browser.
  - DanBC 13y ago
    That is a truly baffling stance to take. Firefox will present new users a panel of six ad tiles. These exist as placeholders for the most visited site tiles. The ads are replaced by the most visited sites, and then they are gone. Chrome - exists to gather information about the user to send that information back to Google for them to more efficiently serve you ads.
    - dragonwriter 13y ago
      IOW, Chrome affects the selection of ads I'm presented on web pages where I am going to see ads no matter what browser I use, Firefox shows additional ads.
sgk284 13y ago
Mozilla has publicly stated that they make at least $300 million per year from Google (as of 2011) [1]. Although there are reports that this is closer to $1 billion per year now (including all search-related revenues). [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing
- nnethercote 13y ago
  Where are those $1 billion reports from? That's the first I've heard of a number anything like that large. Firefox's market share hasn't tripled recently, and the current deal with Google is the same one that started in 2011, so it sounds unlikely to me.
  - sgk284 13y ago
    Yep, you're right. I had read something about Google paying Mozilla $1B, but upon trying to re-dig up the info all I'm getting is non-conclusive and/or misleading articles. $300MM is still a giant number.

by rplnt 13y ago

kevingadd 13y ago

Define 'enough money'. Should they cut back every non-essential employee until they have 5 people in a room, one of them responsible for all Firefox development? Should they assume that the Google revenue party will last forever, despite the fact that Google clearly is motivated to get all users on their own browser? I think it makes sense to diversify the ways they can earn money, and advertising is a reasonable approach as long as it's honest. Nothing here seems to indicate that they will be disguising advertisements or sacrificing usability in favor of advertisements.

dragonwriter 13y ago
> Should they assume that the Google revenue party will last forever, despite the fact that Google clearly is motivated to get all users on their own browser? Building an additional layer of advertising into the FF browser is a good way to advance Google's goal of getting all users on Google's browser.
- DanBC 13y ago
  That is a truly baffling stance to take. Firefox will present new users a panel of six ad tiles. These exist as placeholders for the most visited site tiles. The ads are replaced by the most visited sites, and then they are gone. Chrome - exists to gather information about the user to send that information back to Google for them to more efficiently serve you ads.
  - dragonwriter 13y ago
    IOW, Chrome affects the selection of ads I'm presented on web pages where I am going to see ads no matter what browser I use, Firefox shows additional ads.

sgk284 13y ago

Mozilla has publicly stated that they make at least $300 million per year from Google (as of 2011) [1]. Although there are reports that this is closer to $1 billion per year now (including all search-related revenues). [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing

nnethercote 13y ago
Where are those $1 billion reports from? That's the first I've heard of a number anything like that large. Firefox's market share hasn't tripled recently, and the current deal with Google is the same one that started in 2011, so it sounds unlikely to me.
- sgk284 13y ago
  Yep, you're right. I had read something about Google paying Mozilla $1B, but upon trying to re-dig up the info all I'm getting is non-conclusive and/or misleading articles. $300MM is still a giant number.