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If you don't want the disadvantages of a display and what you care about is the video recording use-case, feel free to check out my product Epiphany Eyewear. h

If you don't want the disadvantages of a display and what you care about is the video recording use-case, feel free to check out my product Epiphany Eyewear. http://www.epiphanyeyewear.com?design http://www.epiphanyeyewear.com?design I know self-promotion is frowned upon and I'm sorry for that, but manufacturing & programming this product is all I do 15 hours a day x 7 days a week, so at this point it's my whole life and I feel like this is a relevant opportunity to mention it for people who are looking for an alternative / complementary product to Glass. Cheers!

jacquesm 13y ago
Pre-order? Do you have a product yet or just a landing page?
- jonmrodriguez 13y ago
  Thank you for your interest. They absolutely exist, in fact fashion brand BCBGMAXAZRIA modeled Epiphany on the runway at New York Fashion Week https://yougen.tv/video/beddc3d4-784f-40ab-8066-652ac8e3f694/ https://yougen.tv/video/beddc3d4-784f-40ab-8066-652ac8e3f694... , and Macklemore & Ryan Lewis rocked Epiphany at a concert in Seattle! We're shipping now but we're cranking through a long backlog. An order placed now will take 4 or more weeks for us to fulfill. I'm actively working on optimizing our assembly line but this is still an ongoing process.
  - jacquesm 13y ago
    Neat! While not a fan of the concept I'm happy to see you're actually shipping product. Thanks for your reply.
x0054 13y ago
Have you considered marketing these to the police departments? Porn industry is another good choice! :)
- jonmrodriguez 13y ago
  Haha nice :) Well they're welcome to buy the glasses at our website! Currently our marketing is focused on direct-to-consumer, for recording (1) exciting action footage which people love to watch and (2) personal nostalgic moments such as Christmastime with family
huhtenberg 13y ago
I would actually gladly pay for the opposite - a wearable display without the camera.
- brodo 13y ago
  Exactly. It baffles me how Google could not see the problems that come with putting a camera in there. I guess its post-privacy corporate culture.
- BugBrother 13y ago
  That would destroy the effects life video-logging will have on social interaction. I look forward to what happens to cultures when it is impossible to be an asshole without ending up on Youtube -- especially violent crime will be impossible, when a large portion (10%+) of the population have logging of what they see. (It would also need fast uploads, preferably triggered by e.g. pulse increase if not exercising, so criminals can't just destroy the logging mechanism.) Disclaimer: I don't know if I will like or approve of the effects, just that it is an interesting thought experiment. There are lots of benefits/disadvantages. For positive ones, think Russian car cameras and meteorites; catching one-in-a-billion events. For negative ones, consider when someone is very stressed out because of a loved one's death. Edit: Thanks eterm, but effects on culture are certainly way too complex to predict.
  - eterm 13y ago
    May I recommend "The entire history of you" one of a short series of films shown on TV. (All 6 so far have been very good.) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089050/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089050/ "In the future,thanks to the Grain, a chip which can be implanted on a hard drive in the brain,every single action that a person makes is recorded and may be played back."
davidw 13y ago
> self-promotion is frowned upon No it's not. We're creators here, and proud of what we do. What's frowned on is if you talk about nothing but your product. It's clear from your comment history that you don't do that. You worked hard to make something cool - say it loud, say it proud!
- jonmrodriguez 13y ago
  Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement B-)
panacea 13y ago
It's a shame you have to press to activate the camera. If you could press to save to disk, the last, say 5 minutes of what you saw these would be amazing. They look good, and you would be assured of never missing an awesome video opportunity.
- jonmrodriguez 13y ago
  I have a market research question for you: The reason we don't currently have this is that smart glasses (being small) can't fit a big battery. Our recording time is about twice that of Glass (ours is 1 hour) but that's still not enough for the all-day recording you envision. So, my question is, would you be willing to wear a thin wire (slightly thicker than a headphone cable) going from your glasses to your pocket to keep your glasses charged, if it enables this use case?
  - panacea 13y ago
    Unfortunately not. That would take these glasses from the realm of a timeless fashionable item augmented with technology inside, to the same problem Glass and bluetooth headsets have. The non-symettry and wire would turn these into FBI-Goon-ware. Edit: FYI 5 people have agreed via up-arrows in the past hour.
    - jonmrodriguez 13y ago
      Thanks for the feedback and the vote count!
  - mburns 13y ago
    I'm not panacea, but I wonder if a design similar to headsets that drape over/hang from your neck could be used as a (limited) battery pack to Glass and avoid a cable running down to your pocket. http://i.imgur.com/FPfH9HN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FPfH9HN.jpg
  - JetSpiegel 13y ago
    Cyborgs can't come soon enough. If I'm running out of Juice, just eat a protein bar.
roryokane 13y ago
A similar product, that I’ve read about but never used, is the Looxcie 2: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00400O8PO http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00400O8PO, http://www.looxcie.com/looxcie-2/ http://www.looxcie.com/looxcie-2/. It’s not a pair of glasses, though – it’s a small camcorder that hooks over your ear.
72deluxe 13y ago
How are these different to the cheap "spy glasses" you can get on ebay? Not meant offensively btw, just actually curious! eg. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HIGH-DEFINITION-SPY-CAMERA-DVR-IN-STYLISH-GLASSES-SPECTACLE-VARIOUS-STYLES-/271204042359?pt=UK_Gadgets&var=&hash=item3f25054677 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HIGH-DEFINITION-SPY-CAMERA-DVR...
- jonmrodriguez 13y ago
  Epiphany's many advantages include: Epiphany has better video quality, most notably our camera optics are almost incomparably better. The stuff you linked to is all narrow-angle, which makes that video seem like looking through a toilet-paper tube. Whereas Epiphany's field of view is 160 degrees, almost as wide as a GoPro, so it can see everything you see including your hands: https://yougen.tv/video/9b406d41-8e68-43fc-904f-f12ce688f610/ https://yougen.tv/video/9b406d41-8e68-43fc-904f-f12ce688f610... Epiphany has much better frame design & build quality. Our material is TR-90, the highest-end optical plastic for luxury eyewear. We have spring hinges which hold snugly on your face for action cam uses. We also have an adjustable nosepiece to fit everyone's face comfortably. Epiphany comes with awesome software called YouGen.TV that makes trimming, uploading, and sharing your videos online very straightforward (as few as 2 drag-drops + 1 click, from start to finish). Epiphany has style - we were featured on the runway at New York Fashion Week http://bestoftheweb.quora.com/Epiphany-Eyewear-smart-glasses-modeled-by-BCBGMAXAZRIA-at-New-York-Fashion-Week http://bestoftheweb.quora.com/Epiphany-Eyewear-smart-glasses... Epiphany has full support for prescription lenses with the industry-standard bevel. Epiphany has the very high level of quality control that western consumers expect. Whereas if you've ever tried buying Chinese goods at a very low price there's a good chance that it failed QA and is "B grade" (dead pixels, blurry focus, off-kilter / askew hinges, scratches on the frame, etc). Epiphany has better audio quality. Our microphone has an excellent signal-to-noise ratio, and we even feature a windscreen foam which filters out wind noise (windscreens are a high-end technique used in music recording studios).
  - ulfw 13y ago
    I got nausea from watching that video. It's a prime example of how little those types of devices make sense unless there's a great way of image stabilizing it.
Casseres 13y ago
They look like amazing glasses! I find the disconnect between 8 hours of video storage, but only 1 to 2 hours of battery life, disappointing. I might be more inclined to purchase this as a toy and see what kind of cool stuff I can use it for, if I didn't have to worry about stopping what I was doing to recharge it. I look forward to seeing the advancements your company makes over the next couple of years.
- jonmrodriguez 13y ago
  Thank you! Typically I don't record anywhere near an hour at a time anyways. My videos are usually between 30 seconds and 3 minutes long. This is for two reasons: (1) I'm recording content to share online, where people have short attention spans and (2) it's really painful to edit an hour-long video because that means spending at least an hour watching it So in a typical day of use I only use up 15~20 minutes of recording time, to capture little highlights of the best moments

jacquesm 13y ago

Pre-order? Do you have a product yet or just a landing page?

jonmrodriguez 13y ago
Thank you for your interest. They absolutely exist, in fact fashion brand BCBGMAXAZRIA modeled Epiphany on the runway at New York Fashion Week https://yougen.tv/video/beddc3d4-784f-40ab-8066-652ac8e3f694/ https://yougen.tv/video/beddc3d4-784f-40ab-8066-652ac8e3f694... , and Macklemore & Ryan Lewis rocked Epiphany at a concert in Seattle! We're shipping now but we're cranking through a long backlog. An order placed now will take 4 or more weeks for us to fulfill. I'm actively working on optimizing our assembly line but this is still an ongoing process.
- jacquesm 13y ago
  Neat! While not a fan of the concept I'm happy to see you're actually shipping product. Thanks for your reply.

x0054 13y ago

Have you considered marketing these to the police departments? Porn industry is another good choice! :)

jonmrodriguez 13y ago
Haha nice :) Well they're welcome to buy the glasses at our website! Currently our marketing is focused on direct-to-consumer, for recording (1) exciting action footage which people love to watch and (2) personal nostalgic moments such as Christmastime with family

huhtenberg 13y ago

I would actually gladly pay for the opposite - a wearable display without the camera.

brodo 13y ago
Exactly. It baffles me how Google could not see the problems that come with putting a camera in there. I guess its post-privacy corporate culture.
BugBrother 13y ago
That would destroy the effects life video-logging will have on social interaction. I look forward to what happens to cultures when it is impossible to be an asshole without ending up on Youtube -- especially violent crime will be impossible, when a large portion (10%+) of the population have logging of what they see. (It would also need fast uploads, preferably triggered by e.g. pulse increase if not exercising, so criminals can't just destroy the logging mechanism.) Disclaimer: I don't know if I will like or approve of the effects, just that it is an interesting thought experiment. There are lots of benefits/disadvantages. For positive ones, think Russian car cameras and meteorites; catching one-in-a-billion events. For negative ones, consider when someone is very stressed out because of a loved one's death. Edit: Thanks eterm, but effects on culture are certainly way too complex to predict.
- eterm 13y ago
  May I recommend "The entire history of you" one of a short series of films shown on TV. (All 6 so far have been very good.) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089050/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089050/ "In the future,thanks to the Grain, a chip which can be implanted on a hard drive in the brain,every single action that a person makes is recorded and may be played back."

davidw 13y ago

> self-promotion is frowned upon No it's not. We're creators here, and proud of what we do. What's frowned on is if you talk about nothing but your product. It's clear from your comment history that you don't do that. You worked hard to make something cool - say it loud, say it proud!

jonmrodriguez 13y ago
Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement B-)

panacea 13y ago

It's a shame you have to press to activate the camera. If you could press to save to disk, the last, say 5 minutes of what you saw these would be amazing. They look good, and you would be assured of never missing an awesome video opportunity.

jonmrodriguez 13y ago
I have a market research question for you: The reason we don't currently have this is that smart glasses (being small) can't fit a big battery. Our recording time is about twice that of Glass (ours is 1 hour) but that's still not enough for the all-day recording you envision. So, my question is, would you be willing to wear a thin wire (slightly thicker than a headphone cable) going from your glasses to your pocket to keep your glasses charged, if it enables this use case?
- panacea 13y ago
  Unfortunately not. That would take these glasses from the realm of a timeless fashionable item augmented with technology inside, to the same problem Glass and bluetooth headsets have. The non-symettry and wire would turn these into FBI-Goon-ware. Edit: FYI 5 people have agreed via up-arrows in the past hour.
  - jonmrodriguez 13y ago
    Thanks for the feedback and the vote count!
- mburns 13y ago
  I'm not panacea, but I wonder if a design similar to headsets that drape over/hang from your neck could be used as a (limited) battery pack to Glass and avoid a cable running down to your pocket. http://i.imgur.com/FPfH9HN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FPfH9HN.jpg
- JetSpiegel 13y ago
  Cyborgs can't come soon enough. If I'm running out of Juice, just eat a protein bar.

roryokane 13y ago

A similar product, that I’ve read about but never used, is the Looxcie 2: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00400O8PO http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00400O8PO, http://www.looxcie.com/looxcie-2/ http://www.looxcie.com/looxcie-2/. It’s not a pair of glasses, though – it’s a small camcorder that hooks over your ear.

72deluxe 13y ago

How are these different to the cheap "spy glasses" you can get on ebay? Not meant offensively btw, just actually curious! eg. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HIGH-DEFINITION-SPY-CAMERA-DVR-IN-STYLISH-GLASSES-SPECTACLE-VARIOUS-STYLES-/271204042359?pt=UK_Gadgets&var=&hash=item3f25054677 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HIGH-DEFINITION-SPY-CAMERA-DVR...

jonmrodriguez 13y ago
Epiphany's many advantages include: Epiphany has better video quality, most notably our camera optics are almost incomparably better. The stuff you linked to is all narrow-angle, which makes that video seem like looking through a toilet-paper tube. Whereas Epiphany's field of view is 160 degrees, almost as wide as a GoPro, so it can see everything you see including your hands: https://yougen.tv/video/9b406d41-8e68-43fc-904f-f12ce688f610/ https://yougen.tv/video/9b406d41-8e68-43fc-904f-f12ce688f610... Epiphany has much better frame design & build quality. Our material is TR-90, the highest-end optical plastic for luxury eyewear. We have spring hinges which hold snugly on your face for action cam uses. We also have an adjustable nosepiece to fit everyone's face comfortably. Epiphany comes with awesome software called YouGen.TV that makes trimming, uploading, and sharing your videos online very straightforward (as few as 2 drag-drops + 1 click, from start to finish). Epiphany has style - we were featured on the runway at New York Fashion Week http://bestoftheweb.quora.com/Epiphany-Eyewear-smart-glasses-modeled-by-BCBGMAXAZRIA-at-New-York-Fashion-Week http://bestoftheweb.quora.com/Epiphany-Eyewear-smart-glasses... Epiphany has full support for prescription lenses with the industry-standard bevel. Epiphany has the very high level of quality control that western consumers expect. Whereas if you've ever tried buying Chinese goods at a very low price there's a good chance that it failed QA and is "B grade" (dead pixels, blurry focus, off-kilter / askew hinges, scratches on the frame, etc). Epiphany has better audio quality. Our microphone has an excellent signal-to-noise ratio, and we even feature a windscreen foam which filters out wind noise (windscreens are a high-end technique used in music recording studios).
- ulfw 13y ago
  I got nausea from watching that video. It's a prime example of how little those types of devices make sense unless there's a great way of image stabilizing it.

Casseres 13y ago

They look like amazing glasses! I find the disconnect between 8 hours of video storage, but only 1 to 2 hours of battery life, disappointing. I might be more inclined to purchase this as a toy and see what kind of cool stuff I can use it for, if I didn't have to worry about stopping what I was doing to recharge it. I look forward to seeing the advancements your company makes over the next couple of years.

jonmrodriguez 13y ago
Thank you! Typically I don't record anywhere near an hour at a time anyways. My videos are usually between 30 seconds and 3 minutes long. This is for two reasons: (1) I'm recording content to share online, where people have short attention spans and (2) it's really painful to edit an hour-long video because that means spending at least an hour watching it So in a typical day of use I only use up 15~20 minutes of recording time, to capture little highlights of the best moments