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I would venture to guess that their are a lot of people in United States who believe in cutting government spending and fiscal responsibility but at the same ti

by x0054 13y ago

I would venture to guess that their are a lot of people in United States who believe in cutting government spending and fiscal responsibility but at the same time are socially liberal, and believe that people should be given opportunities and left alone to do what they will with their life and have sex and marry who ever they want (assuming consent and free will). Basically, something tells me that there are a lot of people who understand that the problems we are facing are more complex than the sound bite solutions which our politicians provide. Why isn't there a 3rd party. I am not talking about libertarians, or anarchists, or the Green Party. I want to vote for the party of "reasonable" people who will use logic, science, and well documented facts to get my vote, not rhetoric and scare tactics. The "balance" party perhaps.

shasta 13y ago
> Why isn't there a 3rd party? http://www.gametheory.net/News/Items/120.html http://www.gametheory.net/News/Items/120.html
cwisecarver 13y ago
I totally agree. I am the guy you just described and I think of myself as a libertarian, before the Tea Party ruined the term. I'd like us to rein in spending and make lawmakers accountable for the money they vote to spend. At the same time I'm in favor of absolutely anyone doing absolutely anything they want so long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. Marry three desk lamps and a fishing pole if you want. How does that in any way affect me? Smoke some green tea leaves and a polyester blanket if it makes you happy. You burn down my apartment building and we're gonna have words. We don't need to be spending our blood and treasure to butt into other countries' affairs. I want the post-WWII days back where we didn't bother anyone that didn't bother us first.
- tmuir 13y ago
  >I want the post-WWII days back where we didn't bother anyone that didn't bother us first. Perhaps you meant the word "days" literally. The CIA, created in 1947, solely exists to butt into other countries affairs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_re...
hrkristian 13y ago
We have that party here in Norway, and it doesn't really work as you want it to. When you base your political stance on reason and reflection, you're appealing to a ridiculously small portion of the population. Most people either won't be able to grasp it, or does not have/take the time to do so. Not to complain, the situation feels pretty good over here, with political power shared between multiple parties. It's still frustrating trying to debate politics, because you cannot argue facts with a person driven by emotions. Trying to means racing against the clock of attention span, while ELI5'ing as best you can, and this is on an individual level, debate panels are even worse because you're even more time-constrained and cannot assess an individual's response to better reach them. This of course, leads me to my point, politics are what they are because there is no demand for truth, there is only a demand for emotional gratification. It's easier to sell war against satanic evil, than it is to sell funding for research into solar energy hodgepodge technology. > Water tubes? Why don't I just go in the back yard and fill up some bottles! hah!

by x0054 13y ago

shasta 13y ago

> Why isn't there a 3rd party? http://www.gametheory.net/News/Items/120.html http://www.gametheory.net/News/Items/120.html

cwisecarver 13y ago

I totally agree. I am the guy you just described and I think of myself as a libertarian, before the Tea Party ruined the term. I'd like us to rein in spending and make lawmakers accountable for the money they vote to spend. At the same time I'm in favor of absolutely anyone doing absolutely anything they want so long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. Marry three desk lamps and a fishing pole if you want. How does that in any way affect me? Smoke some green tea leaves and a polyester blanket if it makes you happy. You burn down my apartment building and we're gonna have words. We don't need to be spending our blood and treasure to butt into other countries' affairs. I want the post-WWII days back where we didn't bother anyone that didn't bother us first.

tmuir 13y ago
>I want the post-WWII days back where we didn't bother anyone that didn't bother us first. Perhaps you meant the word "days" literally. The CIA, created in 1947, solely exists to butt into other countries affairs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_re...

hrkristian 13y ago

We have that party here in Norway, and it doesn't really work as you want it to. When you base your political stance on reason and reflection, you're appealing to a ridiculously small portion of the population. Most people either won't be able to grasp it, or does not have/take the time to do so. Not to complain, the situation feels pretty good over here, with political power shared between multiple parties. It's still frustrating trying to debate politics, because you cannot argue facts with a person driven by emotions. Trying to means racing against the clock of attention span, while ELI5'ing as best you can, and this is on an individual level, debate panels are even worse because you're even more time-constrained and cannot assess an individual's response to better reach them. This of course, leads me to my point, politics are what they are because there is no demand for truth, there is only a demand for emotional gratification. It's easier to sell war against satanic evil, than it is to sell funding for research into solar energy hodgepodge technology. > Water tubes? Why don't I just go in the back yard and fill up some bottles! hah!