> Thats like saying "its not web 2.0" frankly. If you can't manage to checkout a library/framework and make use of it without being reliant on a specific packag

> Thats like saying "its not web 2.0" frankly. If you can't manage to checkout a library/framework and make use of it without being reliant on a specific package manager, you shouldn't be writing software. Honestly, I would not start a new project with a library that does not support composer if I could help it. Supporting composer is easy and makes my life easy - not because I /can't/ checkout the library, but because I don't have to store the library in my VCS and I don't have to bother with transmitting it back and forth between servers or dealing with Pull Requests with massive file changes whenever I update the library.