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Very manifesto-ish. It's almost like I'm reading the words of the wolf. If we really want to protest against say, monitoring, then we should be building free t
by d0 13y ago
Very manifesto-ish. It's almost like I'm reading the words of the wolf.
If we really want to protest against say, monitoring, then we should be building free tools for people to easily move their email away from GMail or building something better than email as an alternative.
Don't build better. Make what is there unusable. Remember the enemy can use it too.
If we want to discourage Concast from throttling Netflix, then we should all collectively dump Comcast and move to a company that promises they won't.
Stop buying Netflix. Steal all the films you want and start distributing them on USB sticks.
If we want to discourage the NSA then lobbying government as individuals isn't going to cut it. That horse has already bolted. That horse needs a bullet to the head. Corporations are the only entities powerful enough to stop government. We need to empower them to fix the problem.
Hang both the government and the corporations. Corporations and government are at one when there is as much inbreeding and crossover as there is.
We think that protesting within the confines of the system will work. It doesn't. We think that protesting in the street will work. It doesn't (Iraq War protests anyone?).
Very true but isn't that what you're promoting. Destroying infrastructure works well (Afghanistan war, not the US for example).
It works outside the western world because they aren't kept within what I call "the sheep bubble". Western governments know how to keep the people within a bubble that provides just enough comfort to keep the vast majority happy. Places where we have seen revolutions haven't maintained that bubble.
Make it uncomfortable for people. Take down their luxury items, their phone networks, their ability to pay for things.
Since we don't have direct control over the bubble in the western world, we have few options for collective revolt.
All we need to do is make it uncomfortable for people.
The only reason we as technology people don't do this is because we're comfortable as well. We're cowards. We're talkers, not do-ers.
There should be no wolves be it us or them.
Now I patiently await to be bagged and tagged.
- junto 13y ago> Make it uncomfortable for people. Take down their luxury items, their phone networks, their ability to pay for things. I agree, but how do you do this? I think that my point was hidden within my ramblings, so I'll try and condense it. The singular power that every individual has, is to choose what they buy and what they consume. The whole system is built upon the premise that we consume. Hence, I would like to see consumers work together as a powerful block, that can effectively combat the power of both government and corporations. First we influence corporations to control the government. Once you've done that you can keep turning the screws on the corporations that don't fit to our ideal. We are the populous. Collectively we have more power than any government and any corporation. You just need to find a way to turn this picture upside down: http://i.imgur.com/yStRSPk.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yStRSPk.jpg
- d0 13y agoWell it's fairly easy. Stop people consuming. Consuming is the oil that keeps the cogs turning. Choosing where to consume doesn't change a thing. It just shifts the power balance from one set of corporations to another. Each of those has political connections. Move to black markets, move to stand-alone non-country backed currencies and swap things and services. Prevent consumption by making it impossible to do so by taking out the mediums for cash flow i.e. mobile networks, inter-bank transfer systems and large single points of failure like payment companies. Blockade roads and sabotage rail network signalling systems, fuel supplies etc. When people are unable to consume and find eating at risk and can no longer move using sanctioned paths, the power balance will shift to a necessity based economy, at which point the representatives, government and economic systems which allow this to happen will collapse. Nothing is going to change until everyone is in the same boat.
- wolf550e 13y agoWelcome to the terrorist watchlist.
- d0 13y agoYes probably. Someone has to say it though and it's only an adaptation of the motivation and procedure of declaring war. It's exactly the same conversation people have before they invade a country so to be taken up on this would be hypocritical. I have no intention of acting or inciting myself, as I'm quite comfortable, physically broken, a coward. Plus I rather would like to play with my new computer before the world falls down around me :)
- rhizome 13y agoWhen people are unable to consume and find eating at risk and can no longer move using sanctioned paths, the power balance will shift to a necessity based economy... Will it? What are some examples from history of this occurring?
- d0 13y ago