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Thanks for your reply. Wow that's really interesting and great as well. [1] Won't get into why I think my wife is "smart" and won't say anymore lest she reads

by larrys 13y ago

Thanks for your reply. Wow that's really interesting and great as well. [1] Won't get into why I think my wife is "smart" and won't say anymore lest she reads this and the wrong thing happens! (I'll leave it at that). That said I'm always amazed at the number of people I've run into who think there is some downside to not having a basically "stupid" woman that is totally dependent on the husband. I've had people actually question why I would want to be married to someone who is "smart". (My wife is a Physician so people automatically think "smart"). [2] [1] Typically when someone thinks someone is smart [3] it's because they know something the other person doesn't and can run circles around them. (Reason why people say "he's really good with computers" in other words anything more than what they know is "really smart".) Anyway in the case of what you have presented above you say: a) "In a debate I'm usually able to rationally disassemble another person's arguments and "win"' (So you think you are good at this) then b) "I remember the moment that she presented her argument and it was different than mine and I realized she was absolutely correct " (So you see she is better at something you think you are really good at that really intesifies things since you have a point of reference (whereas people evaluating the computer guy have less of that for sure) c) "And then it happened again and again." d) "I had never met another human being where that happened, ever." So you are in awe of her because your metric is your own intelligence which you have already figured out is quite high. And you have proof of that from past experience. [2] I dated another woman who was a Physician and she didn't know you couldn't heat a pizza in a pizza box in other words that paper burned in the oven. (really). So much for that type of smarts. [3] Edit: Other than the obvious markers like degree, grades, job title etc.

bane 13y ago
> So you are in awe of her because your metric is your own intelligence which you have already figured out is quite high. And you have proof of that from past experience. Yeah, I suppose that would be the metric then! It's fantastic to have somebody, everyday, who constantly challenges me and forces me to exercise my mind. I would definitely have had trouble with a "trophy" wife...and actually I find that I get along better with men who have highly intelligent wives better than men who have hot trophy wives.
- dennisgorelik 13y ago
  > I would definitely have had trouble with a "trophy" wife "Trophy" wife does NOT mean "not intelligent".
  - larrys 13y ago
    Would like to point out that in my experience most men who use that expression (at least that I have run into or in popular culture) say "trophy wife" when they mean someone who is attractive and that that is their main redeeming value. So for example one wouldn't have called Hillary Clinton a "trophy wife" because although she is quite accomplished she is not really of the grade of looks that would be "trophy" (in the common usage). Ok so now I go and seek the definition on the internet to see what it says. And it says this: "a young, attractive wife regarded as a status symbol for an older man." That said of course you are right that "trophy wife" does not mean "not intelligent" but that is most likely the assumption that the majority of people are making.
    - dennisgorelik 13y ago
      Ok, now that we established that "trophy wife" does not mean "not intelligent", what do we say about people who make that incorrect assumption? In particular, how smart are such people?
      - larrys 13y ago
        "what do we say about people who make that incorrect assumption?" Is it an incorrect assumption if people are simply using what they have learned from others over time as far as what the word appears to mean? In other words if you think that a "PC" is an IBM PC even though a Mac is a "PC" isn't that ok? I say the ubiquitous definition is such that there is very little you will be able to do to change that. What we are talking about is defacto vs. dejure. Dejure you are right. Defacto though seems to indicate "such people" are right.

by larrys 13y ago

bane 13y ago

> So you are in awe of her because your metric is your own intelligence which you have already figured out is quite high. And you have proof of that from past experience. Yeah, I suppose that would be the metric then! It's fantastic to have somebody, everyday, who constantly challenges me and forces me to exercise my mind. I would definitely have had trouble with a "trophy" wife...and actually I find that I get along better with men who have highly intelligent wives better than men who have hot trophy wives.

dennisgorelik 13y ago
> I would definitely have had trouble with a "trophy" wife "Trophy" wife does NOT mean "not intelligent".
- larrys 13y ago
  Would like to point out that in my experience most men who use that expression (at least that I have run into or in popular culture) say "trophy wife" when they mean someone who is attractive and that that is their main redeeming value. So for example one wouldn't have called Hillary Clinton a "trophy wife" because although she is quite accomplished she is not really of the grade of looks that would be "trophy" (in the common usage). Ok so now I go and seek the definition on the internet to see what it says. And it says this: "a young, attractive wife regarded as a status symbol for an older man." That said of course you are right that "trophy wife" does not mean "not intelligent" but that is most likely the assumption that the majority of people are making.
  - dennisgorelik 13y ago
    Ok, now that we established that "trophy wife" does not mean "not intelligent", what do we say about people who make that incorrect assumption? In particular, how smart are such people?
    - larrys 13y ago
      "what do we say about people who make that incorrect assumption?" Is it an incorrect assumption if people are simply using what they have learned from others over time as far as what the word appears to mean? In other words if you think that a "PC" is an IBM PC even though a Mac is a "PC" isn't that ok? I say the ubiquitous definition is such that there is very little you will be able to do to change that. What we are talking about is defacto vs. dejure. Dejure you are right. Defacto though seems to indicate "such people" are right.