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I'm sorry, but I have no idea what your comment actually means. What gulfs? Men and women are complimentary. The masculine and the feminine interplay between
by maratd 13y ago
I'm sorry, but I have no idea what your comment actually means.
What gulfs?
Men and women are complimentary. The masculine and the feminine interplay between each other and cooperate toward mutual benefit. There is no gulf.
I reject the notion that we somehow have to eliminate the feminine and the masculine, to be left with some sort of androgynous average. That's just nonsense.
And yes, some men can be feminine and some women can be masculine, and we all certainly have characteristics that can be described as one or the other, but they can and should be described as one or the other. Not as some gender-less PC nonsense.
There is nothing wrong with being a masculine man. There is nothing wrong with being a feminine woman. And there is nothing wrong with the array of all the other possibilities. There are no gulfs that need bridging.
- greenrice 13y agoI think you need to re-read the comment that you responded to.
- vacri 13y agoThere is way too much false dichotomy in your comment. Boiling people down to being merely masculine or feminine is highly oversimplifying the human condition.
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoNo, there aren't, but a lot of people are firmly convinced that there are. Feminism and "political correctness" and your alleged "angry emotional mobs" exist as a necessary backlash to the (historically overwhelmingly popular) idea that Man and Woman are as complimentary and irreconcilable as opposite poles of a magnet. These people don't just assert that "boys, on average, prefer trucks to dolls," but that boys shouldn't be allowed to play with dolls, or wear dresses, or cry, or like other boys. It's that gigantic, history-long engine of oppression that we're fighting against. Yes, some people may occasionally take it too far in the other direction, as humans tend to do. Forcing a boy to play with dolls against his will is just as bad as forcing him not to. But that's nowhere near as large or widespread a problem as traditional gender-enforcement still is today.
- cwaniak 13y ago> No, there aren't, but a lot of people are firmly convinced that there are. Any evidence of that?
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoHere's an experiment you can try yourself if you're male: attempt to enter a typical* church or school while wearing a dress and makeup. Compare to the reactions you get entering the same establishment wearing "normal" clothes. *I'm sure you can cherry-pick unusually liberal examples of either, but you know what I'm talking about.
- ebfe 13y agoThere's a distinct difference between disapproving of men who dress as women and believing that they shouldn't be allowed to do so.
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoYou think there's a lot of people who wouldn't want a cross-dresser in their church, but would allow their sons to wear dresses?
- growupkids 13y agoWhat about a kilt?
- radarsat1 13y agoPeople would think you look like a hipster.
- ebfe 13y agoVery few people who discourage their son from wearing a dress or taking up ballet do so in an attempt to enforce some grand imperative of how things should be. Rather, parents encourage certain traits because they believe that these are the traits that will equip their children with the best odds of success. And they're right- a boy who enjoys t-shirts and sports is at a tremendous social advantage over one prefers dresses and ballet. It has nothing to do with dictating how things should be, and everything to do with trying to maximize a child's expected future happiness given how things are.
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