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DigitalOcean opens a Singapore Datacenter
- d0 13y agoThey need to keep on top of existing demand as well and start running over-capacity. Not joking but it's pretty long wait to get an instance up in a preferred DC sometimes which is putting a lot of us off the platform.
- AJ007 13y agoI am going to keep machines at Digital Ocean, but they have had the most failures/downtime I have seen from any host that I've used in nearly a decade, including ec2, rackspace, and gogrid (if there is anyone left using gogrid.) One problem we've run in to is an instance fails, but it can't be brought back up because the backup image is only located in the datacenter that is already at capacity.
- d0 13y agoA million upvotes if I could. I didn't actually consider that last point. That has effectively killed DO for me instantly from a risk point of view and I'm going to immediately migrate my two machines off it. Literally it's 22:50 here tonight and I don't think I'll sleep until it's done. Have some company credit left over with Azure so will throw it on there on Ubuntu for now.
- yapcguy 13y agoOk, this is nonsense! DigitalOcean did not "open" a data center in Singapore. All they have done is rented some racks / colo space from Equinix in an existing facility. http://www.equinix.com/locations/singapore-colocation/singapore-data-center http://www.equinix.com/locations/singapore-colocation/singap... They're just another customer - to spin and imply they have built or opened a brand new data center is ridiculous. "Our decision to open a new datacenter" is really "We've located servers in Singapore". What's wrong with telling the truth? Just more evidence that DigitalOcean is all PR and hot air after their pot-shots at Linode and brushing off security issues as "features".
- shimon_e 13y agoYou gotta love how some people can spin investments in the thousands of dollars as if it was millions.
- deeths 13y agoThey haven't said anything untrue. They're open about the fact they're working with a colo provider and using a common definition for "datacenter" appropriately. While "datacenter" can refer to the physical building, it's also commonly used to refer to a set of server/storage/network resources physically cordoned off for your use in a colo. Using this definition isn't just common with hundreds of other hosters, its well standardized in IT circles, and used as the official definition of the word "datacenter" by numerous industry groups, regulators, analysts, and the US Federal government. For instance: http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/definition/data-center http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/definition/data-cente... http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/egov_docs/cio_memo_fdcci_deliverables_van_roekel_3-19-12.pdf http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/ego... The whitehouse.gov pdf above says: "under the FDCCI, a data center is now defined as a closet, room, floor, or building for the storage, management, and dissemination of data and information. Such a repository houses computer systems and associated components...<snip>... housed in leased (including by cloud providers), owned, collocated, or stand-alone facilities."
- yapcguy 13y agoI'll respectfully disagree. They are implying creation and ownership of an entire facility. They want to market themselves as being bigger and stronger than they actually are. I guess hustling and bending the truth is rule 101 in marketing for start-ups these days, but it doesn't have to be like that. When Blue Bottle open a new coffee shop, that's what they call it, an opening. If other coffee shops stock their coffee, Blue Bottle don't claim to have opened a new location, they simply say their coffee is available or served there.
- deeths 13y agoTheir announcement uses the phrase "Working with Equinix to ensure the highest quality facility". Since Equinix is a colo provider, that implies they're running in a colo. If you read their FAQ (https://www.digitalocean.com/faq https://www.digitalocean.com/faq), they're pretty clear that their other datacenters are in 3rd party colos: "We have datacenters located in the NYC area (located in the Equinix and Telx datacenters), San Francisco (Telx), and in Amsterdam (TelecityGroup)."
- latch 13y agoSomething seems off with the routing. I'm on one of the big 3 internet providers in Singapore, and I'm getting a 300-400ms latency to their ping server (speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com) and to a droplet which I just started. DO <-> SL ~2ms DO <-> AWS ~2ms Me <-> SL ~15ms Me <-> AWS ~15ms Me <-> DO 350ms
- Thaxll 13y agoCheck your routing, I'm on the east coast with Level3 and I get 250ms: PING speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com (128.199.255.139) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 128.199.255.139: icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=256 ms 64 bytes from 128.199.255.139: icmp_req=2 ttl=51 time=256 ms 64 bytes from 128.199.255.139: icmp_req=3 ttl=51 time=256 ms 64 bytes from 128.199.255.139: icmp_req=4 ttl=51 time=256 ms 64 bytes from 128.199.255.139: icmp_req=5 ttl=51 time=256 ms --- speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4005ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 256.248/256.456/256.851/0.211 ms
- nwh 13y agoNot the best from Australia yet either. --- speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com ping statistics --- 49 packets transmitted, 45 packets received, 8.2% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 262.448/360.721/530.517/66.088 ms
- latch 13y agoDespite what DO said in their announcement, my experience says that Australian users are better served by servers in California than Singapore.
- nwh 13y agoThey're all terrible, but SFO does look better for me than the rest. --- speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 49 packets received, 2.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 281.718/334.077/458.775/43.216 ms --- speedtest-ams2.digitalocean.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 48 packets received, 4.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 368.574/423.556/581.576/46.758 ms --- speedtest-nyc2.digitalocean.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 47 packets received, 6.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 283.225/338.437/428.314/31.986 ms --- speedtest-nyc1.digitalocean.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 49 packets received, 2.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 284.853/339.193/424.864/29.139 ms --- speedtest-ams1.digitalocean.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 47 packets received, 6.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 352.165/453.513/584.099/52.971 ms --- speedtest-sfo1.digitalocean.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 48 packets received, 4.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 205.293/324.091/445.077/54.935 ms
- gabemart 13y agoIt used to be that it was possible to take a snapshot of a DO droplet without shutting down the droplet, provided the droplet had 1GB of ram or higher. Does anyone know if this is still the case?
- InAnEmergency 13y agoI don't know if that was ever the case, but at this point you do have to power off the droplet to make a snapshot: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/digitalocean-backups-and-snapshots-explained https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/digitalocean...
- Rapidwire 13y agoYou can take a "backup" without powering down, but not a "snapshot".
- IgorPartola 13y agoAnd still no IPv6 support :(. When will they make it a priority?
- kordless 13y agoFirst thing I said when I came in - glad to see others say the same! I just figured out I can run IPV6 hosts at home on Comcast and ping them from an IPV6 ping gateway page. I'm still scratching my head on how that works and whether or not my router allows all IPV6 packets inbound to all hosts. Tried to test on AWS, but that's not working. Went to my DO account, and still no support. Rackspace supports IPV6, but I think something wonky happened to my account when I was testing the developer credits for them. I need to get it fixed. Anyone have IPV6 at home and want to help me test it?
- welterde 13y agoSure.. got a bunch of VMs&machines I can test from. But first order you could just traceroute with Sixxs[0]. That way you will at least know if the icmp6 packets reach their target unharmed. Your router might still be blocking all incoming connections per default (which is probably a good idea for home networks). [0]https://www.sixxs.net/tools/traceroute/ https://www.sixxs.net/tools/traceroute/
- stevekemp 13y agoSure; drop me a mail and I can test from the UK if that's useful. (Miredo tunnel here at home, or native IPv6 connectivity on my vps provider - Bytemark, in Manchester, UK.) Though I'm just about to sleep so it'll be ten hours or so ;)
- kordless 13y agoThanks for the offer. Got Rackspace going again and tested. Wide open. O_o
- IgorPartola 13y agoDepending on what your router is running (hopefully OpenWRT), ping6/ICMPv6 should be allowed to any host by default. Check out your firewall rules and see what it says there. ICMPv6 is an important part of IPv6, and in general not being able to ping something isn't really a security gain, so much as a usability loss. On my OpenWRT setup, the default is to rate limit ICMPv6 to 1000 requests/second and to limit the response types.
- aguki 13y agoWhy are those complaining about routing issues posting ping outputs instead of traceroutes?
- jlgaddis 13y agoIt doesn't matter. Even if they posted traceroutes, they'd only be from one direction which is near useless anyways.
- m4r71n 13y agoHow does DigitalOcean compare to RamNode? I've been using a small VPS at RamNode and it's been great. It offers pretty much the same features (SSD, 1 CPU, 1 Gbps connection) as DigitalOcean (plus RamNode offers 16 IPv6 addresses), yet it's half the price. The only downside to RamNode is the 500 GB of bandwidth compared to 1 TB at DigitalOcean. Maybe I'm missing something, but why would one use DigitalOcean over RamNode for VPS hosting?
- cmircea 13y ago500GB bandwidth you say? That is the plan with only 128MB of memory; you can't run many things with so little memory. The 512MB plan at RamNode is $7.5, 50% more.
- exhilaration 13y agoIs that factoring in the coupons they keep putting out there? I paid $100.44 for a year after their 38% coupon (38RLY) and signed up for 1024 MB RAM plan, 150 GB disk, 2 IPv4 addresses, 3000 GB bandwidth. It's great.
- cmircea 13y agoI only considered the base monthly price; you can definitely get it cheap with coupons and yearly plans.
- cmircea 13y agoIf you're looking for a bargain, I found this: 2GB RAM, 50GB disk, 2TB bw, 2 IPv4, 100Mbps STEALOFADEAL (coupon) - 12 months, $40 Chicago, IL - https://billing.chicagovps.net/cart.php?a=add&pid=160 Buffalo, NY - https://billing.chicagovps.net/cart.php?a=add&pid=161 Los Angeles, CA - https://billing.chicagovps.net/cart.php?a=add&pid=162 Atlanta, GA - https://billing.chicagovps.net/cart.php?a=add&pid=163a=add&pid=163
- Matsta 13y agoChicagoVPS are terrible. If you Google ChicagoVPS the suggest searches are "ChicagoVPS down" and "ChicagoVPS hacked". There's 10 million threads on Lowendtalk bitching about ChicagoVPS. Here's one from last year. http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/7668/chicagovps-has-lost-their-mind-s http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/7668/chicagovps-has-lost-th...
- kordless 13y agoI wish they would add IPV6 support.
- j45 13y agoI hope a Canadian Datacenter (preferably westcoast) is in the cards soon!
- Rapidwire 13y agoMake a uservoice post about it if there isn't one.
- mkhattab 13y agoI'm worried about DigitalOcean. I think their priority should be to try to approach feature parity with Amazon or Rackspace. As of now, there are many features that are missing, such as private networking (only available in NYC2), CDN, elastic IP, load balancing, etc. How about the ability to support attaching metadata to any instance?[0] How difficult is this to implement? More importantly, how would a devops person manage many instances without this feature? Isn't ex-EC2/Rackspace/<others> the target market for DigitalOcean? --- [0]: http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/3682231-add-tags-to-instances http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean...
- stephen_g 13y agoNot to mention IPv6. I like DigitalOcean but am starting to think of completely ditching them not just because they don't have it (delays are understandable), but because the last word from them (around August or September last year) was that they'd have a public beta in October, and then gone completely silent. No public beta happened, and now they won't respond to any customer queries about it. I'm fine with there being delays, but very not fine about the silent treatment (or vague answers like 'it's in development' - actually give some detail of what's been going on because it's been 'in development' for something like three years now).
- mkhattab 13y agoI guess the reason is because their focus is primarily on expansion. They're trying to put on their big boy pants too soon.
- hyperplane 13y agoOr they're simply under investor pressure to put on those big boy pants over achieving feature parity.
- Gigablah 13y agoOr they're simply, you know, responding to demand.
- mattezell 13y agoHappy to hear about the new opening, DO. Happy customer here - thanks for providing what has proven to be solid service and support for me (far better than my previous 'budget provider'). I am seeing a lot of complaints about DO that has nothing to do with this announcement... Traceroutes and ping times from the region - legit. Debate on the claim of 'opening a data center' (vs renting rack space) - legit (at least on topic). Complaining about lack of DO features - off topic and noise... Let's be honest about what DigitalOcean is (and they may not like my categorization - I don't know, I'm just a customer) - they are a low price / budget hosting provider... I am not saying that people's complaints about lack of features or problems aren't legitimate complaints, but that they don't particularly belong here or add value to this discussion. DO has been on here a lot - whining about wants and complaints on every post is lame... You want to voice your complaints? Write a post about why DO doesn't live up to your dream of all that a $5/mo VPS solution should live up to on your little blog and see if it makes it to the front page - then you can rightfully whine about lack of IPv6 all you want and know that you're not just thread dumping on a young small company's enthusiastic announcement about expanding their services. Or... Here's a thought for all of you super awesome critics who clearly know what's up way more than DO does - go make something superior and sell it for $4.50/mo!!!
- jdc0589 13y agoPerfect example from another comment: "I'm worried about DigitalOcean. I think their priority should be to try to approach feature parity with Amazon or Rackspace." Maintaining/achieving solid quality and reliability with their current, or a slightly extended feature set, while maintaining their awesome price point is FAR more important than feature parity with the biggest VPS hosts in the world. We don't need another hosting provider that has every feature ever at a premium price. We need a provider with a smaller feature set that is more affordable.
- neom 13y ago+1 That doesn't mean no new features, but we are certainly not rushing products out the door, market pressure or not. We know what we're doing. :)
- hendry 13y agoI started a SG droplet about 5 hours ago. It's still down. They're suffering some outage and it's a shame it isn't mentioned on their status page. #fail https://twitter.com/kaihendry/status/433451127657357312 https://twitter.com/kaihendry/status/433451127657357312 I'll stick with GPLhost for now http://webconverger.org/servers/ http://webconverger.org/servers/
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