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How is that consistent with the sudden drop in bandwidth shown in the article's graph ... which is in mbps so if netflix increased their quality, you'd expect i
by twoodfin 13y ago
How is that consistent with the sudden drop in bandwidth shown in the article's graph ... which is in mbps so if netflix increased their quality, you'd expect it to remain level.
To me, that looks an awful lot like our observed Cogent <-> Verizon/Comcast performance starting around October. It also looks like what happens when a network connection becomes saturated: Performance doesn't drop off linearly, it drops off much faster.
Netflix and Comcast/Verizon don't have enough bandwidth between them to support subscriber demand and Netflix's high bit rate streams at peak hours. There are three obstacles to improving that:
- Somebody's got to pay for bigger interconnect. This is actually the cheapest part, and Netflix would be happy to forgo the interconnect by putting a few boxes loaded with video cache on Comcast's or Verizon's networks.
- Somebody's got to pay for the added bandwidth on Comcast and Verizon's networks to push these video packets to subscribers. Well, duh, Comcast and Verizon should, right? Except now they're at the mercy of Netflix, who can keep loading on subscribers and upping the bit rate until a substantial fraction of home broadband subscribers are trying to pull 10Mbit constantly from 7pm-12am EST. Comcast and Verizon are not thrilled to have to pay for this, especially when it's unclear how they benefit.
- And of course: Netflix is in direct competition with Verizon and Comcast's own "OTA" TV and video on demand services. Every dollar Comcast and Verizon spend to make Netflix more appealing for their subscribers is a dollar they're spending encouraging those same subscribers to cancel or scale back their expensive TV packages.
- lsaferite 13y agoMinor point, but if I'm paying for 10Mbit, shouldn't I be able to actually USE that fully? Mind you, I'm not paying for a 1Mbit with 10Mbit bursting. I am the revenue source for my ISP and they should have a vested interest in providing me the service level I'm paying for. EDIT: Also, the conflict of interest with an ISP also being a content provider should be legislated away. We have a horrible situation right now and it's only going to get worse.
- twoodfin 13y agoI don't think your provider has guaranteed you 10Mbit constant bandwidth to every host on the internet. Would you demand 10Mbit constant bandwidth to the Galapagos islands? Or to some site getting slashdotted? If you check your contract, I suspect 10Mbit or whatever is described as a maximum possible speed which can be affected by a variety of conditions and is not guaranteed.
- lsaferite 13y agoIf you read the post I was replying to, he was alluding to customers pulling a sustained 10Mbit on the connection during certain hours and that being justification for shenanigans. I was simply saying if I pay for a full 10Mbit (not bursted 10Mbit) then I expect to be able to saturate that and not have the ISP try to justify throttling some of the traffic or charging a downstream source for the 'right' to send me data over a connection I'm already paying for.