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In the grand Nazi vision they would all have been killed.
by Bootvis 13y ago
In the grand Nazi vision they would all have been killed.
- oleganza 13y agoSo if you are to be killed by Hitler, it's okay if Stalin kills you to prevent that? What happened with "initiation of force is bad, period"? If there's no moral absolute, then there's no point in debating what's better and what's worse. It's just some atoms wobbling in the spacetime.
- tobiasu 13y agoExplain why someone should spend time debating with you?
- lmm 13y agoIf Stalin was able to save the lives of 50 million people who would otherwise have died by killing 10 million of them (which I don't necessarily think is actually the case, but supposing it was), I call that a good act. "initiation of force is bad, period" is not a good moral philosophy.
- lafar6502 13y agoYeah, Stalin is a great savior of humanity. Let's give him a Nobel prize for killing only 10 million while he could easily kill everybody. Thank you for showing me the path of enlightened.
- Bootvis 13y agoThat was not what I said, I said that Hitler was not a lesser evil than Stalin.
- democracy 13y agoYou can't judge events of the past from todays norms of morale. And if you think you can - give me a name of a leader during first half of last century that was absolutely clean and innocent and whose decisions did not kill anyone.
- oleganza 13y agoAll political leaders are psychopathic manipulators and sadists. Normal, sane person would strive to avoid ordering one group of people to point guns at another group of people as a part of a Grand Plan. Normal person would use weapons and violence only as a last measure when all else didn't prevent getting him/her in that awful situation.