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In this case acronym is not being used jargonistically, it's being used to avoid writing out "Proto-Indo-European language" and perhaps more importantly acts as

by ronaldx 13y ago

In this case acronym is not being used jargonistically, it's being used to avoid writing out "Proto-Indo-European language" and perhaps more importantly acts as a useful indicator that this is not a novel concept in the field. It is seen frequently and unambiguously in any discussion about linguistics. I recommend you avoid throwing around accusations of laziness: if you're genuinely not aware that PIE stands for Proto-Indo-European language, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIE acts as a perfectly good source.

mattlutze 13y ago
(I hadn't intended to make this such a conversation, apologies to tikwidd for building a mountain...) I've assistant edited academic journals and spent years as a copywriter/editor at a consulting firm that worked in many specialized industries. That accusation was leveled with purpose and from experience. This is not only about the acronym above, though PIE does have many meanings[1]. That an acronym has a specific meaning to a specific group is why it is jargon. That it is "not a novel concept in the field" further reinforces that and is justification for writing it out, given the audience. It's really that simple. The primary effect of acronyms on a non-indoctrinated audience is to reduce the writing's accessibility. Simply, this is not a linguistics conference nor journal forum, and it is inappropriate to assume the folks here will know field specific acronyms. 1: http://www.allacronyms.com/PIE http://www.allacronyms.com/PIE
- DanBC 13y ago
  What should people do? Write it out in full once then use the initialism? Once per post or per thread? Does it make any difference that it is spelt in full in the linked question? > From the top of my head, Danish "de" (practically never used), German "Sie", Chinese "您", French "vous", Spanish "usted" are a formal way of addressing someone, especially if one isn't familiar with the addressee. Did English ever have this? It sounds as though Proto-Indo-European might have had this (based on my 4 examples), but perhaps someone can enlighten me? You think the use of PIE is bad, just wait until they bust out the ASCII IPA. (I am thick as 2 short planks but I've heard of PIE. HN should be a place where people like me need to work hard to keep up.)

by ronaldx 13y ago

mattlutze 13y ago

(I hadn't intended to make this such a conversation, apologies to tikwidd for building a mountain...) I've assistant edited academic journals and spent years as a copywriter/editor at a consulting firm that worked in many specialized industries. That accusation was leveled with purpose and from experience. This is not only about the acronym above, though PIE does have many meanings[1]. That an acronym has a specific meaning to a specific group is why it is jargon. That it is "not a novel concept in the field" further reinforces that and is justification for writing it out, given the audience. It's really that simple. The primary effect of acronyms on a non-indoctrinated audience is to reduce the writing's accessibility. Simply, this is not a linguistics conference nor journal forum, and it is inappropriate to assume the folks here will know field specific acronyms. 1: http://www.allacronyms.com/PIE http://www.allacronyms.com/PIE

DanBC 13y ago
What should people do? Write it out in full once then use the initialism? Once per post or per thread? Does it make any difference that it is spelt in full in the linked question? > From the top of my head, Danish "de" (practically never used), German "Sie", Chinese "您", French "vous", Spanish "usted" are a formal way of addressing someone, especially if one isn't familiar with the addressee. Did English ever have this? It sounds as though Proto-Indo-European might have had this (based on my 4 examples), but perhaps someone can enlighten me? You think the use of PIE is bad, just wait until they bust out the ASCII IPA. (I am thick as 2 short planks but I've heard of PIE. HN should be a place where people like me need to work hard to keep up.)