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So the suggestion here is to "fight back" by asking politely the people who are abusing you to please stop.

by super_mario 13y ago

wjk 13y ago
Thats what it seems like to me too. Can someone explain how this is not just another slacktivism thing? Hashtags and banners on a website...
- Trufa 13y ago
  In one day, nothing. The objective of this is to generate awareness, and it is achieving it's goal. My mother knows what the NSA is and sees the problem. The only thing that might get us to a better place is to slowly change awareness and with it, will start the political pressure. Why one day? a focused campaign will generate much more visibility. Think of how fast the zeitgeist has changed for civil right to minorities, you'd be surprised, maybe in 10, 15 years privacy might be on it's way to being respected again.
- ForHackernews 13y ago
  Hashtags and banners are only helpful for raising awareness. Phone calls to congresspeople actually can have an impact. Congresspeople keep track of issues that generate a lot of phone calls, and it influences how they vote and what they spend their time on.
datashaman 13y ago
Picturing the scene at the NSA offices: Oh shit guys! They hit 100000 signatures, shut the machine down!
drdaeman 13y ago
Well... We should tell TLAs to stop spying (we already did, long time ago, with obvious results). We should make such activity illegal (it is what's happening), because a big part of problem is secrecy and legal consequences leading to inability to tell anyone they're being spied upon. But, indeed, sole laws are not proper security measure. And for some reason I don't see calls for any technical measures to make mass surveillance costly (and strongly believe it's necessary). We have locks and safes for a reason.
DenisM 13y ago
Did you miss the part where a new proposed law in congress could curtail NSA powers if enacted?

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So the suggestion here is to "fight back" by asking politely the people who are abusing you to please stop.

by super_mario 13y ago

So the suggestion here is to "fight back" by asking politely the people who are abusing you to please stop.

wjk 13y ago
Thats what it seems like to me too. Can someone explain how this is not just another slacktivism thing? Hashtags and banners on a website...
- Trufa 13y ago
  In one day, nothing. The objective of this is to generate awareness, and it is achieving it's goal. My mother knows what the NSA is and sees the problem. The only thing that might get us to a better place is to slowly change awareness and with it, will start the political pressure. Why one day? a focused campaign will generate much more visibility. Think of how fast the zeitgeist has changed for civil right to minorities, you'd be surprised, maybe in 10, 15 years privacy might be on it's way to being respected again.
- ForHackernews 13y ago
  Hashtags and banners are only helpful for raising awareness. Phone calls to congresspeople actually can have an impact. Congresspeople keep track of issues that generate a lot of phone calls, and it influences how they vote and what they spend their time on.
datashaman 13y ago
Picturing the scene at the NSA offices: Oh shit guys! They hit 100000 signatures, shut the machine down!
drdaeman 13y ago
Well... We should tell TLAs to stop spying (we already did, long time ago, with obvious results). We should make such activity illegal (it is what's happening), because a big part of problem is secrecy and legal consequences leading to inability to tell anyone they're being spied upon. But, indeed, sole laws are not proper security measure. And for some reason I don't see calls for any technical measures to make mass surveillance costly (and strongly believe it's necessary). We have locks and safes for a reason.
DenisM 13y ago
Did you miss the part where a new proposed law in congress could curtail NSA powers if enacted?