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So if your new employee doesn't give you warm fuzzies- let them go fast? There are lots of great talent that is neither an anti-social asshole, nor a social but

So if your new employee doesn't give you warm fuzzies- let them go fast? There are lots of great talent that is neither an anti-social asshole, nor a social butterfly; there has to be a some minimal time to "get to know" the new guy. It sounds like this guys is hiring for a frat-house. Also, Warning signs- Randy mentions "9-5" and "as they say goodbye at what you may not deem not a legitimate end of the day." I don't think I would want to work for Randy- Maybe this is just my impression and not the case here, but if you think being a startup is an excuse for regularly expecting employees to work more than 8 working hours a day then you are deluded, taking advantage of your employees and hurting them. I would not let my employees work more than 50 hrs/week even if they begged. Side thought: Everyone in the valley mentions 9-5 as "standard working hours", but a standard work day is 8 hours. So assuming a 1 hr lunch that is 7-4/8-5/9-6... Where I grew up in the upper midwest, there everyone used the term 8-5...

emhart 13y ago
re: side thought - we do 8:30-5 where I'm at, as we generally set aside half an hour for lunch. That said - in the service industries I worked in for many years, you would work an 8 hour shift with one short break, one half hour break and get paid for 35 hours at the end of the week. I know that isn't universal, but it was a very common experience in my work life.
- cema 13y ago
  Just one of the reasons service industries suck. (Especially with respect to software industry, but also manufacturing.)
goodcanadian 13y ago
Where I grew up, a paid 15 minute break was standard for every 2 hours work. Heck, it might even be required by law. So, 9-5 is definitely 8 hours, and it includes two 15 minute breaks and a half hour lunch.
dhoulb 13y ago
You want to be relaxed about it, so some leeway in the 9-5 is fine (and encouraged, cause who likes being doucheboss). But if they're consistently arriving at quarter past 9, and leaving before five but never 1 minute after it, that's a pretty sure sign they don't give a crap about the work they're doing. That's pretty bad for everyone.
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emhart 13y ago

re: side thought - we do 8:30-5 where I'm at, as we generally set aside half an hour for lunch. That said - in the service industries I worked in for many years, you would work an 8 hour shift with one short break, one half hour break and get paid for 35 hours at the end of the week. I know that isn't universal, but it was a very common experience in my work life.

cema 13y ago
Just one of the reasons service industries suck. (Especially with respect to software industry, but also manufacturing.)

goodcanadian 13y ago

Where I grew up, a paid 15 minute break was standard for every 2 hours work. Heck, it might even be required by law. So, 9-5 is definitely 8 hours, and it includes two 15 minute breaks and a half hour lunch.

dhoulb 13y ago

You want to be relaxed about it, so some leeway in the 9-5 is fine (and encouraged, cause who likes being doucheboss). But if they're consistently arriving at quarter past 9, and leaving before five but never 1 minute after it, that's a pretty sure sign they don't give a crap about the work they're doing. That's pretty bad for everyone.

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