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Won what? Besides Nokia is not really Microsoft and Android is not really a Linux, so the answer is probably "not really".

leobelle 13y ago
How is Android "not really a Linux ? It runs the Linux kernel. That means it's Linux. No, it's not a distribution of GNU/Linux, but it's a Linux kernel. It's really using Linux. It's as Linux as Ubuntu, as Ubuntu also runs on a Linux kernel.
- pessimizer 13y ago
  Why would anybody have cared about Linux except as an academic exercise if not for GNU? If there had been another properly licensed kernel before Linux, we would all be using GNU bolted on top of that. Linux has been great and Linus is a great steward, but Linux without GNU is a base for creating an OS, not an OS.
  - RyanZAG 13y ago
    I really like GNU, but are you sure that it is GNU that has succeeded and not Linux? Linux + GNU = small marketshare Linux + Android = big marketshare So maybe without GNU, Linux would have gotten some other userland quicker and taken off faster? I don't think it's entirely fair to credit Linux's success to GNU at this point.
    - sesqu 13y ago
      What other userland? Without GNU, Linux might never have even gotten written.
    - dvogel 13y ago
      Apples to oranges. Those markets have different dynamics, gatekeepers, legacy costs, etc.
  - pjmlp 13y ago
    > If there had been another properly licensed kernel before Linux, we would all be using GNU bolted on top of that. BSD?
    - sampo 13y ago
      BSD was is a legal limbo between 1992–1994, and by then Linux had gained more popularity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL_v._BSDi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL_v._BSDi
DrJokepu 13y ago
If uname(2) says it’s Linux, it has to be Linux.
- rcthompson 13y ago
  cat >/bin/uname <<EOF #!/bin/sh echo Linux EOF chmod +x /bin/uname
  - DrJokepu 13y ago
    I see your point; that being said, I was talking about the system call uname(2), not the command line utility uname(1). It's somewhat more difficult to fake that, you need to know your way around C the very least.
bestdayever 13y ago
>not really a linux I lol'd
sliverstorm 13y ago
But what if we mostly just want to feel smug?

leobelle 13y ago

How is Android "not really a Linux ? It runs the Linux kernel. That means it's Linux. No, it's not a distribution of GNU/Linux, but it's a Linux kernel. It's really using Linux. It's as Linux as Ubuntu, as Ubuntu also runs on a Linux kernel.

pessimizer 13y ago
Why would anybody have cared about Linux except as an academic exercise if not for GNU? If there had been another properly licensed kernel before Linux, we would all be using GNU bolted on top of that. Linux has been great and Linus is a great steward, but Linux without GNU is a base for creating an OS, not an OS.
- RyanZAG 13y ago
  I really like GNU, but are you sure that it is GNU that has succeeded and not Linux? Linux + GNU = small marketshare Linux + Android = big marketshare So maybe without GNU, Linux would have gotten some other userland quicker and taken off faster? I don't think it's entirely fair to credit Linux's success to GNU at this point.
  - sesqu 13y ago
    What other userland? Without GNU, Linux might never have even gotten written.
  - dvogel 13y ago
    Apples to oranges. Those markets have different dynamics, gatekeepers, legacy costs, etc.
- pjmlp 13y ago
  > If there had been another properly licensed kernel before Linux, we would all be using GNU bolted on top of that. BSD?
  - sampo 13y ago
    BSD was is a legal limbo between 1992–1994, and by then Linux had gained more popularity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL_v._BSDi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL_v._BSDi

DrJokepu 13y ago

If uname(2) says it’s Linux, it has to be Linux.

rcthompson 13y ago
cat >/bin/uname <<EOF #!/bin/sh echo Linux EOF chmod +x /bin/uname
- DrJokepu 13y ago
  I see your point; that being said, I was talking about the system call uname(2), not the command line utility uname(1). It's somewhat more difficult to fake that, you need to know your way around C the very least.

bestdayever 13y ago

>not really a linux I lol'd

sliverstorm 13y ago

But what if we mostly just want to feel smug?