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It would be nice if you linked to the actual comments that were down voted instead of to article pages with dozens of comments, where, presumably, the reader ha

It would be nice if you linked to the actual comments that were down voted instead of to article pages with dozens of comments, where, presumably, the reader has to guess which comment you were referring to.

Torn 17y ago
Fairly easy to scan the comments the OP is talking about -- they're light-grey with negative scores, and it's clear they've had effort put into them.
- plinkplonk 17y ago
  "Fairly easy to scan the comments the OP is talking about -- they're light-grey with negative scores, " not necessarily true at the time of reading (vs at the time of posting) . You forget that comment scores are dynamic and even very old comments can be upvoted past zero (downvotes have a time window) and maybe no longer "light-grey with negative scores" by the time someone reads this submission and looks for the comments.
  - Torn 17y ago
    noted, thanks.
andreyf 17y ago
I thought there were too many comments to link to: Create's and bitdiddle's responses here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720924 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720924 This response: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720909 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720909 Is identical to this one: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720766 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720766 My comments in this entire conversation, also: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720569 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720569 (at one point, each of mine was <0, now upvoted out of nagativity, thanks! :))
- jeroen 17y ago
  Where the 3rd one is a simple WFM, which is helpful because it establishes that not everyone is having these problems, the 2nd comment sounds condescending and ignores the problems that the parent is having in favour of bringing up an unrelated bug that should be fixed soon. See the parent post: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720525 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720525
- psranga 17y ago
  Wrt create and bitdiddle, downvote seems like the appropriate response. It appears that create is factually wrong, and bitdiddle was saying something irrelevant about stock price. Wrt your comments on the 1984-Amazon-copyrights thing, I think you have something there. HN has too many people who think copyright laws are bad. Many here even seem to think that the GPL is bad (see comments on Zed's GPL rant). And many of them feel this very strongly. That's just the community; when you come in here and say that following copyright law is a good thing, to many people it doesn't sound like a reasonable thing to say, it seems like a harmful thing to say. They turn into white blood cells and stamp out the infection. :) I don't even bother opening the comment pages on GPL and copyright articles anymore. I don't see any light being generated there; only heat.
  - alain94040 17y ago
    Got to say I love the quote "no light generated here, only heat". Did you just make that up? It's a great quote for discussion groups.
    - Create 17y ago
      I feel it as a pun on a well-known idiom in other languages, that would translate verbatim to more about smoke than fire i.e. something of no substance or use, most often discussion. It is a certainly saying in my native language.
  - Create 17y ago
    MJF: Hemminger is claiming Microsoft put the LIC code under the GPL because it was in violation of the GPL. Is this true? Did you have to suggest to (Microsoft Platform Strategy Chief Sam) Ramji & Co. that they were in violation in order to get them to agree to release the code under GPLv2? GKH: I didn’t have to “suggest” anything, I only had to merely point out the obviousness of the situation :) MJF: If this isn’t accurate, could you let me know how to interpret (Hemminger’s) comments on his blog. GKH: No, that sounds accurate. [...] Ramji didn’t come right out and deny the GPL violations claim, but I guess that’s as much as we’re going to get. http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3433 http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3433

Torn 17y ago

Fairly easy to scan the comments the OP is talking about -- they're light-grey with negative scores, and it's clear they've had effort put into them.

plinkplonk 17y ago
"Fairly easy to scan the comments the OP is talking about -- they're light-grey with negative scores, " not necessarily true at the time of reading (vs at the time of posting) . You forget that comment scores are dynamic and even very old comments can be upvoted past zero (downvotes have a time window) and maybe no longer "light-grey with negative scores" by the time someone reads this submission and looks for the comments.
- Torn 17y ago
  noted, thanks.

andreyf 17y ago

I thought there were too many comments to link to: Create's and bitdiddle's responses here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720924 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720924 This response: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720909 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720909 Is identical to this one: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720766 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720766 My comments in this entire conversation, also: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720569 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720569 (at one point, each of mine was <0, now upvoted out of nagativity, thanks! :))

jeroen 17y ago
Where the 3rd one is a simple WFM, which is helpful because it establishes that not everyone is having these problems, the 2nd comment sounds condescending and ignores the problems that the parent is having in favour of bringing up an unrelated bug that should be fixed soon. See the parent post: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720525 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=720525
psranga 17y ago
Wrt create and bitdiddle, downvote seems like the appropriate response. It appears that create is factually wrong, and bitdiddle was saying something irrelevant about stock price. Wrt your comments on the 1984-Amazon-copyrights thing, I think you have something there. HN has too many people who think copyright laws are bad. Many here even seem to think that the GPL is bad (see comments on Zed's GPL rant). And many of them feel this very strongly. That's just the community; when you come in here and say that following copyright law is a good thing, to many people it doesn't sound like a reasonable thing to say, it seems like a harmful thing to say. They turn into white blood cells and stamp out the infection. :) I don't even bother opening the comment pages on GPL and copyright articles anymore. I don't see any light being generated there; only heat.
- alain94040 17y ago
  Got to say I love the quote "no light generated here, only heat". Did you just make that up? It's a great quote for discussion groups.
  - Create 17y ago
    I feel it as a pun on a well-known idiom in other languages, that would translate verbatim to more about smoke than fire i.e. something of no substance or use, most often discussion. It is a certainly saying in my native language.
- Create 17y ago
  MJF: Hemminger is claiming Microsoft put the LIC code under the GPL because it was in violation of the GPL. Is this true? Did you have to suggest to (Microsoft Platform Strategy Chief Sam) Ramji & Co. that they were in violation in order to get them to agree to release the code under GPLv2? GKH: I didn’t have to “suggest” anything, I only had to merely point out the obviousness of the situation :) MJF: If this isn’t accurate, could you let me know how to interpret (Hemminger’s) comments on his blog. GKH: No, that sounds accurate. [...] Ramji didn’t come right out and deny the GPL violations claim, but I guess that’s as much as we’re going to get. http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3433 http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3433