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It's worse, because it's far more powerful. From 4 miles in the air (so high you can't see the drone), works while the drone is "circling" (so far more accurat

It's worse, because it's far more powerful. From 4 miles in the air (so high you can't see the drone), works while the drone is "circling" (so far more accurate due to transit and length of sniffing), is intentionally used for "fingerprinting" entire cities (who belongs here? what devices moved? where did they go?) without any suspicion of individual wrongdoing, and unlike google, IT DOESN'T JUST TARGET WAPs. Think about it. They ingest every handset, every wifi device, every BSSID, ESSID, even MACs ARPing over the air. For entire cities. Now think ten years ahead, when solar-powered persistent drones can stay up over a city 24/7, constantly circling, sniffing, and relaying the movements of UUIDs from place to place around the world. Drones fly just as well in US airspace as Yemeni airspace. This is what Snowden warned us about. "Papers, please" is out of date: they're no longer asking.

yohanatan 13y ago
So then don't conspire to blow anyone up and you'll be a-ok.
- cobrausn 13y ago
  Or stand near anyone conspiring to blow anything up, or buy a used phone from someone conspiring to blow anything up... did you even read the article? 283+ civilian casualties to date, with more collateral damage than any other form of interdiction we've tried so far.
  - yohanatan 13y ago
    You must have missed the 'fix' part of 'find, fix, & finish'. They have real-time video feeds of the targets right up until pushing the button (aka 'finishing'). And, yes, I say it is generally not a good idea not to associate with terrorists or go into a room with them and throw your SIM card into a pile to be mixed. And, if you suddenly find out that your phone number has changed for no explicable reason, it's probably best to ditch the SIM card and buy a new one.
    - cobrausn 13y ago
      You must have missed (or willfully ignore) the part where it says this mode of interdiction has more civilian casualties than any other we have tried. So just maybe it isn't the best way to deal with the threat at hand.

yohanatan 13y ago

So then don't conspire to blow anyone up and you'll be a-ok.

cobrausn 13y ago
Or stand near anyone conspiring to blow anything up, or buy a used phone from someone conspiring to blow anything up... did you even read the article? 283+ civilian casualties to date, with more collateral damage than any other form of interdiction we've tried so far.
- yohanatan 13y ago
  You must have missed the 'fix' part of 'find, fix, & finish'. They have real-time video feeds of the targets right up until pushing the button (aka 'finishing'). And, yes, I say it is generally not a good idea not to associate with terrorists or go into a room with them and throw your SIM card into a pile to be mixed. And, if you suddenly find out that your phone number has changed for no explicable reason, it's probably best to ditch the SIM card and buy a new one.
  - cobrausn 13y ago
    You must have missed (or willfully ignore) the part where it says this mode of interdiction has more civilian casualties than any other we have tried. So just maybe it isn't the best way to deal with the threat at hand.