i can't believe anyone actually learned this stuff in school. i can't believe there is any debate about it. all the truly good programmers/engineers/computer_sc

i can't believe anyone actually learned this stuff in school. i can't believe there is any debate about it. all the truly good programmers/engineers/computer_scientists/whatever_the_fuck_you_want_to_call_us learn the vast majority of what we know on our own (even if some of us did go to school for it). We do so because of curiosity and determination to make ground-breaking stuff, which we intrinsically know comes from understanding every single damn thing about computers from the metal up to javascript. CS in schools, at least past required k-12 education, is for people not sure of what they want to do--so we should frame the conversation about how to make CS courses to hook them or something. To me it's just a lame topic. I mean it's a valid one, but the idea of passionate programmers from hacker news in any way, like, looking up to school as any sort of answer is just some bitch ass shit. If you're sure you want to be a developer, get to work son, and zone out on your computer. That's the appropriate stance. Stop looking to institutions for answers.