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>Ever since that generation the gender gap has been widening Well, it might have something to do with the huge emphasis on judging people based on their gender

by Crake 13y ago

>Ever since that generation the gender gap has been widening Well, it might have something to do with the huge emphasis on judging people based on their gender that the feminists and sjws have been shoving down everyone's throats lately. Seriously, she doesn't like the increasing number of women only events because they make it harder for women (at all stages of their careers) to be accepted like everyone else. Surprise, emphasizing someone's gender as the most important thing about you makes people more likely to treat you differently because of it. I'm part of the younger generation, and I feel exactly the same way she does. These sexist policies are making my life WAY more difficult. I'm jealous of people who got to experience tech before it got popular enough to become a target for feminists. >You do not represent all women in technology. You get to represent yourself. Any given feminist will happily claim to be the voice of all women everywhere. It's only when a woman disagrees with their dogma that a woman is only allowed to speak for herself.

mtrimpe 13y ago
> These sexist policies are making my life WAY more difficult. I'm jealous of people who got to experience tech before it got popular enough to become a target for feminists And I feel sorry for you for that. It's always painful when a subculture you feel at home in enters common culture and moves itself out of your comfort zone in the process. I'd feel even more sorry for you though if your sphere of empathy wouldn't ever expand to include the more feminine geeks that currently don't feel welcome in our industry. The author of the story wrote this from a good heart and a desire to say the right thing and get people to skip all those frustrating awkward stages in between but unfortunately I'd say that is as useful telling someone who's stressed to just relax: it might even work for some people but if you really care about the outcome relying only on this tactic leaves a lot of room for improvement. That's why I will continue to do what I feel is best to make our industry more inclusive. The simple fact that we're having this discussion here is made possible by people like me who've repeatedly criticized pg for letting gender issue stories be flagged off the front page so easily and I'm grateful for having played a small part in that small change. As a genderfluid person from the same generation as the author it's truly a breath of fresh air for me to see thoughts and perspectives I've always had discussed out in the open. I for one feel more at home in the industry already through this all. If it's like that for me, someone who can at least always choose to pass as male, then I'm sure many women feel the same and as far as I'm concerned that's a good thing worth fighting for. And yes, I acknowledge that will make things harder for you, the author and her son. I believe though that an industry where everyone feels welcome regardless of gender, which just isn't the case right now and hasn't been for a long time, will be worth every ounce of sacrifice it takes. > Any given feminist will happily claim to be the voice of all women everywhere. That's a rather dubiously broad statement; but if that happens then call them out on it. Improve the discourse. Ask them if they want to feel the pressure of having their every action represent their entire gender. If they say no then remind them they shouldn't be speaking for their entire gender either.

by Crake 13y ago

mtrimpe 13y ago

> These sexist policies are making my life WAY more difficult. I'm jealous of people who got to experience tech before it got popular enough to become a target for feminists And I feel sorry for you for that. It's always painful when a subculture you feel at home in enters common culture and moves itself out of your comfort zone in the process. I'd feel even more sorry for you though if your sphere of empathy wouldn't ever expand to include the more feminine geeks that currently don't feel welcome in our industry. The author of the story wrote this from a good heart and a desire to say the right thing and get people to skip all those frustrating awkward stages in between but unfortunately I'd say that is as useful telling someone who's stressed to just relax: it might even work for some people but if you really care about the outcome relying only on this tactic leaves a lot of room for improvement. That's why I will continue to do what I feel is best to make our industry more inclusive. The simple fact that we're having this discussion here is made possible by people like me who've repeatedly criticized pg for letting gender issue stories be flagged off the front page so easily and I'm grateful for having played a small part in that small change. As a genderfluid person from the same generation as the author it's truly a breath of fresh air for me to see thoughts and perspectives I've always had discussed out in the open. I for one feel more at home in the industry already through this all. If it's like that for me, someone who can at least always choose to pass as male, then I'm sure many women feel the same and as far as I'm concerned that's a good thing worth fighting for. And yes, I acknowledge that will make things harder for you, the author and her son. I believe though that an industry where everyone feels welcome regardless of gender, which just isn't the case right now and hasn't been for a long time, will be worth every ounce of sacrifice it takes. > Any given feminist will happily claim to be the voice of all women everywhere. That's a rather dubiously broad statement; but if that happens then call them out on it. Improve the discourse. Ask them if they want to feel the pressure of having their every action represent their entire gender. If they say no then remind them they shouldn't be speaking for their entire gender either.