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The principle of charity has long since expired and now we are left to ponder whether you've ever even been to a city. To answer your question, yes, the best w

The principle of charity has long since expired and now we are left to ponder whether you've ever even been to a city. To answer your question, yes, the best way to get people to a stadium is, by far, to remove the parking lot. Here's one of the most well-attended MLB stadiums in the country. It's served by two streetcar lines and a mainline railroad. https://www.google.com/maps/preview/@37.779165,-122.390703,3a,75y,79.92h,94.55t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgOor2VIW6zcDwyQCEsYTfA!2e0 https://www.google.com/maps/preview/@37.779165,-122.390703,3... Here's Wrigley Field: https://www.google.com/maps/preview/@41.949016,-87.655596,3a,75y,101.36h,79.79t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZG47gz5jCGeHFtqN6Y4NAA!2e0 https://www.google.com/maps/preview/@41.949016,-87.655596,3a... At Yankee stadium they built a parking garage and so few people use it that the garage operator is bankrupt. They are tearing them down. The stadium is served by a subway line and Metro North even has a station literally called "Yankees". I suggest you get out of Mom's basement and see the country before holding forth on its infrastructure.

chrismcb 13y ago
You are going to compare most of America to New York? The city with perhaps the best American public transport, and the lowest per capita car ownership? I'd rather take public transit to a stadium (barring the recent super bowl) but due to poor public transportation in some places I don't have a choice. The solution isn't to decrease parking lots first. The solution is to improve public transportation, then you can remove the parking lots.
- thrownaway2424 13y ago
  New York isn't some kind of rare case. 6% of Americans live in the NYC metro area. That's the thing about cities and suburbs: tons of people live in cities, by their nature, and relatively few people live in the suburbs, by their nature as well. If more people lived in the suburbs, they'd turn into cities. Anyway yes, I am comparing. The article is about the form of urban spaces and how it can better balance the needs of all users, in light of the fact that extant american streetscapes strongly favor the car over all other users. The claim was made that stadia require parking lots. Examples of the opposite were given. The fact that in some places you don't have a choice simply reflects on the inadequate urban forms that are found in many suburbs in the USA.
  - Spooky23 13y ago
    The New York City metro area is about 25M people, 8M live in NYC itself. It's an area stretching from eastern Pennsylvania to Suffolk County, and Central Jersey to Kingston, ny and Commecticut. Lots and lots of people live in the New York suburbs, millions actually. They left the city because the costs of living there are just too high. Many/most businesses did too. Many of the buildings in the manhattan skyline are mostly empty. The diversified industry and commercial businesses that made NYC such a powerhouse of economic activity in my dad's youth are long gone. (To suburban hellholes in the South)

chrismcb 13y ago

You are going to compare most of America to New York? The city with perhaps the best American public transport, and the lowest per capita car ownership? I'd rather take public transit to a stadium (barring the recent super bowl) but due to poor public transportation in some places I don't have a choice. The solution isn't to decrease parking lots first. The solution is to improve public transportation, then you can remove the parking lots.

thrownaway2424 13y ago
New York isn't some kind of rare case. 6% of Americans live in the NYC metro area. That's the thing about cities and suburbs: tons of people live in cities, by their nature, and relatively few people live in the suburbs, by their nature as well. If more people lived in the suburbs, they'd turn into cities. Anyway yes, I am comparing. The article is about the form of urban spaces and how it can better balance the needs of all users, in light of the fact that extant american streetscapes strongly favor the car over all other users. The claim was made that stadia require parking lots. Examples of the opposite were given. The fact that in some places you don't have a choice simply reflects on the inadequate urban forms that are found in many suburbs in the USA.
- Spooky23 13y ago
  The New York City metro area is about 25M people, 8M live in NYC itself. It's an area stretching from eastern Pennsylvania to Suffolk County, and Central Jersey to Kingston, ny and Commecticut. Lots and lots of people live in the New York suburbs, millions actually. They left the city because the costs of living there are just too high. Many/most businesses did too. Many of the buildings in the manhattan skyline are mostly empty. The diversified industry and commercial businesses that made NYC such a powerhouse of economic activity in my dad's youth are long gone. (To suburban hellholes in the South)