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I don't think either of us is capable of making definitive statements on the harm of women-only education programs, so I'll stay out of that. I do believe howe
by mtrimpe 13y ago
I don't think either of us is capable of making definitive statements on the harm of women-only education programs, so I'll stay out of that.
I do believe however that it's completely and utterly impossible to improve gender dynamics without putting emphasis on it.
Using the (un)conscious (in)competence learning model [1] as a reference what you're saying is essentially that we should just go from unconscious incompetence straight to unconscious competence without doing that whole 'conscious' step, but that's just not a realistic option.
To achieve mastery or improvement in anything it needs to, at least temporarily, become conscious.
And yes, that will indeed be uncomfortable at first, but I really don't believe we can get there without it.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence
- Crake 13y ago>I don't think either of us is capable of making definitive statements on the harm of women-only education programs Well, it's pretty much a given that they're increasing sex based discrimination in the world. Both as a primary effect ("we only take people with vaginas") as well as a significant secondary effect ("wait, so I can't go because I'm a boy?"). >I do believe however that it's completely and utterly impossible to improve gender dynamics without putting emphasis on it. It's a free country, so you're free to believe that. Just acknowledge that you're an advocate for sex-based discrimination. Incidentally, this makes you a sexist.
- mtrimpe 13y ago> Incidentally, this makes you a sexist. Given that sexist isn't a binary thing I'm perfectly willing to concede that to some degree and in some ways I am indeed a sexist. Heck, I'm bisexual and to some degree I'm a homophobe. I don't like it, I'm not proud of it, it definitely doesn't work in my favour and I'm actively working on it, but I still am. And so are you and that's OK. As long as bit by bit we're all getting better.