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Although I agree a broader scope is needed when teaching kids to "code", I feel there is a such a threat to digress and swing the learning pendulum in the other

Although I agree a broader scope is needed when teaching kids to "code", I feel there is a such a threat to digress and swing the learning pendulum in the other direction. Meaning that the kids never get filthy bugs on their hands but end up learning about Silicon Valley Entrepreneurship. Sometimes it pays to dive right in and let them lead there own way out.

stcredzero 13y ago
(In that spirit: "there their!") Medical software is now clawing its way out of lots of bad software written by people with good domain knowledge and too little programming and CS chops. Really, the point should be to make sure the larger culture knows what it doesn't know. Imagine if many financial institutions didn't fully understand their debt instruments...that would be bad, right? (2008) Well, many companies don't understand their technical debt, act like it's some kind of magic, and tell themselves it doesn't matter. Unfortunately, it does.
- wes-exp 13y ago
  make sure the larger culture knows what it doesn't know A million times this. I am not sure if it is possible though. I fear that any programming training as part of basic education will only expand the number of people who feel entitled to code, because they've been exposed to it, and then commence to build absolute shit. That is already a big enough problem, with large-scale failures like the Target breaches or healthcare.gov.
  - RationPhantoms 13y ago
    > Target breaches That was plain stupidity and not a direct result of an exploit in software that was written. The malware used the default passwords on the embedded XP Payment software to gain root access and scrape the database. > healthcare.gov Although I tend to agree, I think this points more a flaw at the Government contract bid structure versus poorly developed code.

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Although I agree a broader scope is needed when teaching kids to "code", I feel there is a such a threat to digress and swing the learning pendulum in the other

by RationPhantoms 13y ago

stcredzero 13y ago
(In that spirit: "there their!") Medical software is now clawing its way out of lots of bad software written by people with good domain knowledge and too little programming and CS chops. Really, the point should be to make sure the larger culture knows what it doesn't know. Imagine if many financial institutions didn't fully understand their debt instruments...that would be bad, right? (2008) Well, many companies don't understand their technical debt, act like it's some kind of magic, and tell themselves it doesn't matter. Unfortunately, it does.
- wes-exp 13y ago
  make sure the larger culture knows what it doesn't know A million times this. I am not sure if it is possible though. I fear that any programming training as part of basic education will only expand the number of people who feel entitled to code, because they've been exposed to it, and then commence to build absolute shit. That is already a big enough problem, with large-scale failures like the Target breaches or healthcare.gov.
  - RationPhantoms 13y ago
    > Target breaches That was plain stupidity and not a direct result of an exploit in software that was written. The malware used the default passwords on the embedded XP Payment software to gain root access and scrape the database. > healthcare.gov Although I tend to agree, I think this points more a flaw at the Government contract bid structure versus poorly developed code.