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These inc articles are just re-hashing stuff that you can read in "Founders at Work" or even Joel's blog. It's a bit disappointing actually.
by koos 17y ago
These inc articles are just re-hashing stuff that you can read in "Founders at Work" or even Joel's blog. It's a bit disappointing actually.
- swolchok 17y agoVery similar to Founders at Work. Might be some lifted or paraphrased paragraphs in there.
- rewind 17y agoThat's a pretty bold statement. Care to be more specific? "Might" doesn't cut it when you're publicly questioning somebody's credibility.
- swolchok 17y agoI'm not questioning anyone's credibility. I made a statement about the article's redundancy with a work that many HNers might read or have read. It's the same guy talking about the same topic, so he could reasonably be expected to say the same or very similar things.
- jmtulloss 17y agoYou used the word "lifted". That's not an accusation of having a similar experience, that's an accusation of plagiarism.
- pyre 17y agoPlagiarizing himself? Huh? Is that even possible?
- blasdel 17y agoYes, and it's a big fucking deal in academia -- you're bloating your publications / citations / reputation without actually contributing anything. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism#Self-plagiarism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism#Self-plagiarism
- swolchok 17y agoFrom your linked article: "Typically, self-plagiarism is only considered to be a serious ethical issue in settings where a publication is asserted to consist of new material, such as in academic publishing or educational assignments [13]. It does not apply (except in the legal sense) to public-interest texts, such as social, professional, and cultural opinions usually published in newspapers and magazines."
- swolchok 17y agoBoth articles are in Joel's voice and credited to Joel. You can't plagiarize yourself. I also used the word "might". The Founders at Work interview is at http://www.foundersatwork.com/joel-spolksy.html http://www.foundersatwork.com/joel-spolksy.html . The Inc article is not a copy and paste, but it triggered the "seen this before" meter.
- gamble 17y agoJoel built his business by relating Microsoft gossip and telling programmers what they wanted to hear. It's a marketing blog. Now that his customers are businessmen, he's telling them what they want to hear, in a forum they're likely to read.
- discojesus 17y ago"Joel built his business by relating Microsoft gossip and telling programmers what they wanted to hear." I'm pretty sure programmers don't want to hear "you need to be writing functional specs" [http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000036.html http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000036.html], "you don't know enough about Unicode" [http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html], "if you don't 'get' pointers and recursion, you just ain't cut out to be a programmer" [http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.html http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.ht...], or "you should never scrap a working codebase and start all over" [http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html]