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> Anyone who is working or has moved overseas is likely to be among the most ambitious of their peer group from back home. Also likely to be from a wealthy or

by ronaldx 13y ago

> Anyone who is working or has moved overseas is likely to be among the most ambitious of their peer group from back home. Also likely to be from a wealthy or otherwise privileged background: wealth offers opportunity and permits risk-taking.

joelrunyon 13y ago
> Also likely to be from a wealthy or otherwise privileged background: wealth offers opportunity and permits risk-taking. Maybe likely - but not required. It sounds nice, but until you have a source for this, I'm not likely to believe it. If anything, especially with these types of endeavors, where there's not just money, but life to be lost - I'd presume that the wealthy would have more to lose than someone with nothing. In other words, with a wealthy person taking risks has a much higher opportunity cost than someone with nothing to lose. As an aside, you can move abroad to asia & live for a fraction of the cost that you'd require in the states. International travel & work isn't just the domain of the wealthy anymore.
- ronaldx 13y ago
  You correctly note that I said likely, not required. So, we're not in disagreement. I agree with you about the risk to life having some effect, but this obviously doesn't apply to people alive today. Anyone can move to Asia and have a better quality of life, perhaps, but it sure as hell helps if: * you can afford regular plane tickets home to family/possibly at short notice, * you have support back in your home country until you get settled, * you are wealthy or privileged enough to have access to whatever visa in whichever country you prefer. (e.g. sufficient education and experience to meet the requirements of a skilled work visa) With respect, if you think intercontinental travel & work isn't primarily the domain of the wealthy, we may have different definitions of wealthy.
  - gaius 13y ago
    What about within the EU? This is a problem for some and an opportunity for others. Many of the people capable of kickstarting the economies of Greece and Spain have left for England or Germany...

by ronaldx 13y ago

joelrunyon 13y ago

> Also likely to be from a wealthy or otherwise privileged background: wealth offers opportunity and permits risk-taking. Maybe likely - but not required. It sounds nice, but until you have a source for this, I'm not likely to believe it. If anything, especially with these types of endeavors, where there's not just money, but life to be lost - I'd presume that the wealthy would have more to lose than someone with nothing. In other words, with a wealthy person taking risks has a much higher opportunity cost than someone with nothing to lose. As an aside, you can move abroad to asia & live for a fraction of the cost that you'd require in the states. International travel & work isn't just the domain of the wealthy anymore.

ronaldx 13y ago
You correctly note that I said likely, not required. So, we're not in disagreement. I agree with you about the risk to life having some effect, but this obviously doesn't apply to people alive today. Anyone can move to Asia and have a better quality of life, perhaps, but it sure as hell helps if: * you can afford regular plane tickets home to family/possibly at short notice, * you have support back in your home country until you get settled, * you are wealthy or privileged enough to have access to whatever visa in whichever country you prefer. (e.g. sufficient education and experience to meet the requirements of a skilled work visa) With respect, if you think intercontinental travel & work isn't primarily the domain of the wealthy, we may have different definitions of wealthy.
- gaius 13y ago
  What about within the EU? This is a problem for some and an opportunity for others. Many of the people capable of kickstarting the economies of Greece and Spain have left for England or Germany...