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People like to complain about laws/regulation/tax/etc. in the US but it is on an entirely different level in the EU.
by us0r 13y ago
People like to complain about laws/regulation/tax/etc. in the US but it is on an entirely different level in the EU.
- tluyben2 13y agoGermany is not the EU and this is not final; it'll never pass EU wide nor will it in Germany for that matter.
- us0r 13y agoGermany is the epitome of the EU. Pass or not Germany and the EU has way more regulation then the US. My point was people who like to complain about regulation here should take a peek across the pond.
- pjump 13y agoMy impression is that EU countries have annoyingly too much regulation for businesses and tend to afford individuals much more freedom than people have in the US. In the US, it seems to be the other way around.
- vwinsyee 13y agoBut in the US, corporations are people too! [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
- tluyben2 13y agoWe definitely have too much regulation for companies here, but on the other hand you cannot really gain much with lawsuits as everyone does kind of act to what is common sense. Unless you did something which is obviously wrong (defraud taxes, steal actual money), no matter what comes out of court usually doesn't impact much / anything for companies. Unlike the US I believe.
- tomp 13y agoWhy would that be bad? The point of regulation is to prevent market inefficiencies, abuses, scams and similar. Regulation is the reason EU customers know how much they will pay for items (VAT included), know what the final flight prices will be, can have mobile subscriptions costing less than 25€ per month, get vacation, sick days and pregnancy leave, ...
- halfdan 13y agoIt is also important to note that in difference to the US court rulings cannot be used as reference for future cases in Germany.
- julioademar 13y agoYea, we're all pretty sane over here.
- us0r 13y agoNo way? I thought the supreme court was like ..... supreme?
- netrus 13y agoWell, they may have the last word in some cases. But no judge is ever bound to act according to a supreme court judgement. They might do so, but they don't have to. To make decision permanent, the parliament has to pass a law.
- pjump 13y agoCourts within Civil Law systems are there just to interpret and enforce the law, not to create it. What individual courts decide is not binding on anyone but the involved parties.
- mariuolo 13y agoEven if not binding they are important references.
- pjump 13y agoExactly.
- bowlofpetunias 13y agoPeople like to complain about the EU without understanding what the EU is. Hint: none of this has fuck all to do with the EU. Germany is a sovereign nation. Edit: And at least this is happening in a proper legal process (which is far from over). It doesn't even come close to the FBI barging in and hijacking domain names of foreign sites without any form of legal process.
- waps 13y agoNot at all. A sovereign nation is a nation that has an organisation that decides what it wants to do that cannot be overridden (like the Bundestag). In practice the Bundestag has the following demands foisted upon it by the European constitutaion : 1) the European commission can suspend any law, or any number of them, with immediate effect. 2) the European commission can force the Bundestag to enter any text it damn well pleases into law. 3) the European commission can override any legal decision made inside Germany's courts, and can lift any existing case to the European level (where the justices are appointed by the same people who appoint people into the European commission) 4) The European commission can sign treaties in the name of Germany. These treaties have been, in jurisprudence, declared to superseed national law. It has not currently been tested, but in theory they can also superseed the German constitution. Incidentally, the elected part of the EU, the parliament, does not have any real influence. Given these, I think it's pretty bloody obvious that Germany is not a sovereign nation. Look at the Germany vs Amazon debacle to see further proof of this.