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Look, "someone only using IDEs with windows" is nothing like what you just described. You gave us all the wrong facts in the initial comment. You've identified

Look, "someone only using IDEs with windows" is nothing like what you just described. You gave us all the wrong facts in the initial comment. You've identified all the wrong facts as important. Your fellow is abnormal to the extreme. That he's never met anyone in 10 years to tell him drag & dropping is not programming is one thing. Making your description match a good proportion of C# developers or even Java developers just shows your irrational bias against types of programmer you obviously view as inferior. The problem is not that he's using an IDE, the problem is he's not a programmer. Bloody luddites clinging to their consoles.

Mikeb85 13y ago
> That he's never met anyone in 10 years to tell him drag & dropping is not programming is one thing. It's not drag and dropping, it's using a 'visual programming' tool that the environment encourages. > The problem is not that he's using an IDE, the problem is he's not a programmer. I wouldn't disagree, I like IDEs myself. I even use automatic completion in my word processor. The problem is that he never learned the basics. > Bloody luddites clinging to their consoles. It's funny how things always come full circle - search is the big thing now, everyone has an interface based on search. Windows 8, Linux, OSX, Android, iOS, everyone. We enter http addresses into our browser, and search for things using (gasp) text, but using the command line makes one a luddite. Great logic that...