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The oil does not go into gadgets. All the oil goes into your car, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPS1y81b1Bw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPS1y81b1Bw

by valtih1978 13y ago

frogpelt 13y ago
1. Gadgets are made of plastic is made of oil. 2. Transportation is critical to you receiving the gadget that you hold in your hand.
hangonhn 13y ago
Not it doesn't all go into your car. It goes into manufacturing. It goes into farming, fertilizers are often oil based. It goes into the chemical industry. It also goes into generating power for electricity. How do you think the gadgets manufactured in China gets to the US? On ships powered by oil. When you fly on a plane, what do you think powers those engines?
- valtih1978 13y ago
  > It goes into manufacturing. That is a good manipulation. I do not think that this is a joke becaus you must know that the major manufacturer is the China yet the major oil conumers are Europe and US, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consum.... The consumers consume 15 times more oil per capita than average chaneese (and 3 times more in absolute figures). So, you do not need the oil to produce. You need it to consume. > It goes into farming, fertilizers are often oil based. This manipulation is even better. Look at the figures, and try to find the microscope to localize your fertilizers, http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-in-products-460510 http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-i.... You will start informing in only after finish that, ok? How can you respond such things on the video that I have linked? The western lifestyle assumes that you free-ride a car and live in the suburb. You need a suburb to free-ride a car. This is where all oil goes into. If you rebuild your city into sustainable one, as suggested, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugv0OY6LyuE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugv0OY6LyuE, you can reduce your oil consumption tens of times. This would cut not only gasoline but also all other expenditures, including car building (this is a major job in the industry, accroding to the 2008 crisis) road building, lighting, other communications and water pipelines, and even home heating, http://sustainability.stackexchange.com/a/2398/476 http://sustainability.stackexchange.com/a/2398/476 correspondingly. So, all the resources are consumed by car. The gadgets are orders of magnitude chaper for the environment and do not need the costly subrubs to exist. The planes are of the same kind. They are a part of your american car lifestyle. They are a stupid waste of the oil when there is a train that is 1000 times more energy efficient (and does not need any oil), once you have a railroad. So, I am saying that there is no way you can sustain your car. But, the micro-electronics is the tip of the human civilizaiton and you have a choice: either you give up the car right now and keep developing the high-tech or keep driving the car and loose both after 20 years (or may be sooner). If the latter happens, the civilization will never recover since there is won't be any oil in the world anymore. This is what I say. But, instead of listening that great insight, you feel necessary to support your catastrophic way of life, where you are going to loose everything.
  - hangonhn 13y ago
    Wow. So you watch a YouTube video and thinks you know everything about oil. Try reading Yergin's "The Prize", which won the Pulitzer Prize award. http://www.amazon.com/Prize-Epic-Quest-Money-Power-ebook/dp/B004T4KKSA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391816595&sr=8-1&keywords=the+prize http://www.amazon.com/Prize-Epic-Quest-Money-Power-ebook/dp/... and also try reading the Quest by him as well. "That is a good manipulation. I do not think that this is a joke becaus you must know that the major manufacturer is the China yet the major oil conumers are Europe and US, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consum... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consum.... The consumers consume 15 times more oil per capita than average chaneese (and 3 times more in absolute figures). So, you do not need the oil to produce. You need it to consume." You're the one doing "manipulation". You made the bold statement that "ALL" of it goes into cars and I point out to you that not "ALL" of it goes into vehicle, which is backed up by the link you cited. http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-in-products-460510 http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-i... . Do you realize that your link actually supports my claims? I can stop here because either you don't understand the meaning of "all" or have some kind of weird grudge against the western world.
    - valtih1978 13y ago
      Wow you reading Yergin's "The Prize", which won the Pulitzer Prize award and think that you know everything about the oil. You is actually an idiot. I can recommed you Jarred Diamond, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_to_Fail_or_Succeed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_... who also had his, how do you call it, the Pulitzer prize. This proves everything. Keep denying the obvious. This was proven useful. > You're the one doing "manipulation". You made the bold statement that "ALL" You is imbicillic criminal, not able to understand the message, after I chewed how ALL is consumed by cars? I have told you not to approach me before you figure out the %% of oil "spent on the fertilizer".
_delirium 13y ago
A good amount of the oil does go into gadgets. Energy, plastics, Amazon shipments, etc. In the U.S. natural gas is also the 2nd-largest fuel source for electricity generation (~30%, 2nd to coal at ~35%).
- valtih1978 13y ago
  > A good amount of the oil does go into gadgets. http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/products-oil-2-de.jpg http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/product... 90% is fuel. Thanks for making me an idiot. You should add that burning that oil in your car helps the gandgets to sustain. You afford much more gadgets to yourself, once the car finishes burning all your oil. Right?
soperj 13y ago
Gadgets are made of plastic.. which is made of oil.
saryant 13y ago
We would not live in our current modern age without oil. Moreover, the oil companies are tech companies and have been since before the phrase was coined. What do you think Exxon's R&D budget is for? Exxon has over 1,000 PhDs on staff. Also, when you refine oil, not everything that comes out is gasoline. Those byproducts are a major component of consumer electronics (plastics). The entirety of a barrel of oil most certainly does not wind up in a car.
- valtih1978 13y ago
  > We would not live in our current modern age without oil really? Do you mean that I am an idiot who does not undestand this? > Exxon has over 1,000 PhDs on staff. Really? Can I prove that 1+1 = 3 based on that?
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waps 13y ago
Look around your room. If you don't have any food lying there, everything you see is made of oil. The carpet on the floor, is manufactured using oil, and the paint, the only part you really see is oil. Same for walls. Every gadget you see has a plastic shell, made from oil. LCDs have lots of components, the majority made from oil. If you look at a TV, all you see is oil. Synthetic fabrics are made from oil, and everything we wear is at least 10% synthetic, more likely 80-90%, and again, the paint used is going to just be oil. Laptops are near 100% oil (the entire shell + the lcd is, so all visible parts are). Even in microchips. Everything but the actual silicon and contact pins is oil. The casing, the print, the holder, the cooler, ... The only exceptions I see in my room is the glass of the window (made from silicon and production energy comes from coal), and a glass. Oh, and some leftover spaghetti.
- valtih1978 13y ago
  I have told you that chinees consume much less oil but produce much more than US citizen. The oil is consumed by consumer, not by producers. The notebook is tens of times cheaper than car alone (needs tens of times less materials/energy to produce). It consumes tens of times less energy, which can be not oil whereas cars are addicted to oil. These are cars that deplete the oil and without it you won't have the gadgets. You neither cannot think not read. You seem to be an ideal consumer. You do everything (and all you do is twisting, comparing incomparable) to have no gadgets in the future.

The oil does not go into gadgets. All the oil goes into your car, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPS1y81b1Bw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPS1y81b1Bw

frogpelt 13y ago

1. Gadgets are made of plastic is made of oil. 2. Transportation is critical to you receiving the gadget that you hold in your hand.

hangonhn 13y ago

Not it doesn't all go into your car. It goes into manufacturing. It goes into farming, fertilizers are often oil based. It goes into the chemical industry. It also goes into generating power for electricity. How do you think the gadgets manufactured in China gets to the US? On ships powered by oil. When you fly on a plane, what do you think powers those engines?

valtih1978 13y ago
> It goes into manufacturing. That is a good manipulation. I do not think that this is a joke becaus you must know that the major manufacturer is the China yet the major oil conumers are Europe and US, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consum.... The consumers consume 15 times more oil per capita than average chaneese (and 3 times more in absolute figures). So, you do not need the oil to produce. You need it to consume. > It goes into farming, fertilizers are often oil based. This manipulation is even better. Look at the figures, and try to find the microscope to localize your fertilizers, http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-in-products-460510 http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-i.... You will start informing in only after finish that, ok? How can you respond such things on the video that I have linked? The western lifestyle assumes that you free-ride a car and live in the suburb. You need a suburb to free-ride a car. This is where all oil goes into. If you rebuild your city into sustainable one, as suggested, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugv0OY6LyuE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugv0OY6LyuE, you can reduce your oil consumption tens of times. This would cut not only gasoline but also all other expenditures, including car building (this is a major job in the industry, accroding to the 2008 crisis) road building, lighting, other communications and water pipelines, and even home heating, http://sustainability.stackexchange.com/a/2398/476 http://sustainability.stackexchange.com/a/2398/476 correspondingly. So, all the resources are consumed by car. The gadgets are orders of magnitude chaper for the environment and do not need the costly subrubs to exist. The planes are of the same kind. They are a part of your american car lifestyle. They are a stupid waste of the oil when there is a train that is 1000 times more energy efficient (and does not need any oil), once you have a railroad. So, I am saying that there is no way you can sustain your car. But, the micro-electronics is the tip of the human civilizaiton and you have a choice: either you give up the car right now and keep developing the high-tech or keep driving the car and loose both after 20 years (or may be sooner). If the latter happens, the civilization will never recover since there is won't be any oil in the world anymore. This is what I say. But, instead of listening that great insight, you feel necessary to support your catastrophic way of life, where you are going to loose everything.
- hangonhn 13y ago
  Wow. So you watch a YouTube video and thinks you know everything about oil. Try reading Yergin's "The Prize", which won the Pulitzer Prize award. http://www.amazon.com/Prize-Epic-Quest-Money-Power-ebook/dp/B004T4KKSA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391816595&sr=8-1&keywords=the+prize http://www.amazon.com/Prize-Epic-Quest-Money-Power-ebook/dp/... and also try reading the Quest by him as well. "That is a good manipulation. I do not think that this is a joke becaus you must know that the major manufacturer is the China yet the major oil conumers are Europe and US, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consum... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consum.... The consumers consume 15 times more oil per capita than average chaneese (and 3 times more in absolute figures). So, you do not need the oil to produce. You need it to consume." You're the one doing "manipulation". You made the bold statement that "ALL" of it goes into cars and I point out to you that not "ALL" of it goes into vehicle, which is backed up by the link you cited. http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-in-products-460510 http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-i... . Do you realize that your link actually supports my claims? I can stop here because either you don't understand the meaning of "all" or have some kind of weird grudge against the western world.
  - valtih1978 13y ago
    Wow you reading Yergin's "The Prize", which won the Pulitzer Prize award and think that you know everything about the oil. You is actually an idiot. I can recommed you Jarred Diamond, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_to_Fail_or_Succeed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_... who also had his, how do you call it, the Pulitzer prize. This proves everything. Keep denying the obvious. This was proven useful. > You're the one doing "manipulation". You made the bold statement that "ALL" You is imbicillic criminal, not able to understand the message, after I chewed how ALL is consumed by cars? I have told you not to approach me before you figure out the %% of oil "spent on the fertilizer".

_delirium 13y ago

A good amount of the oil does go into gadgets. Energy, plastics, Amazon shipments, etc. In the U.S. natural gas is also the 2nd-largest fuel source for electricity generation (~30%, 2nd to coal at ~35%).

valtih1978 13y ago
> A good amount of the oil does go into gadgets. http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/products-oil-2-de.jpg http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/product... 90% is fuel. Thanks for making me an idiot. You should add that burning that oil in your car helps the gandgets to sustain. You afford much more gadgets to yourself, once the car finishes burning all your oil. Right?

soperj 13y ago

Gadgets are made of plastic.. which is made of oil.

saryant 13y ago

We would not live in our current modern age without oil. Moreover, the oil companies are tech companies and have been since before the phrase was coined. What do you think Exxon's R&D budget is for? Exxon has over 1,000 PhDs on staff. Also, when you refine oil, not everything that comes out is gasoline. Those byproducts are a major component of consumer electronics (plastics). The entirety of a barrel of oil most certainly does not wind up in a car.

valtih1978 13y ago
> We would not live in our current modern age without oil really? Do you mean that I am an idiot who does not undestand this? > Exxon has over 1,000 PhDs on staff. Really? Can I prove that 1+1 = 3 based on that?

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waps 13y ago

Look around your room. If you don't have any food lying there, everything you see is made of oil. The carpet on the floor, is manufactured using oil, and the paint, the only part you really see is oil. Same for walls. Every gadget you see has a plastic shell, made from oil. LCDs have lots of components, the majority made from oil. If you look at a TV, all you see is oil. Synthetic fabrics are made from oil, and everything we wear is at least 10% synthetic, more likely 80-90%, and again, the paint used is going to just be oil. Laptops are near 100% oil (the entire shell + the lcd is, so all visible parts are). Even in microchips. Everything but the actual silicon and contact pins is oil. The casing, the print, the holder, the cooler, ... The only exceptions I see in my room is the glass of the window (made from silicon and production energy comes from coal), and a glass. Oh, and some leftover spaghetti.

valtih1978 13y ago
I have told you that chinees consume much less oil but produce much more than US citizen. The oil is consumed by consumer, not by producers. The notebook is tens of times cheaper than car alone (needs tens of times less materials/energy to produce). It consumes tens of times less energy, which can be not oil whereas cars are addicted to oil. These are cars that deplete the oil and without it you won't have the gadgets. You neither cannot think not read. You seem to be an ideal consumer. You do everything (and all you do is twisting, comparing incomparable) to have no gadgets in the future.