Indeed. If einhverfr and usaphp and their fans do in fact represent the majority opinion of this site (which they apparently do), this makes HN a very uncomfort

Indeed. If einhverfr and usaphp and their fans do in fact represent the majority opinion of this site (which they apparently do), this makes HN a very uncomfortable place to be. It's for these reasons I prefer not to have political topics or anything regarding social injustice and religion on HN at all. I actually prefer not to know what most people here think of women, gay people, poor people, foreigners, atheists, you name it. The interesting thing is that those same people can appear completely reasonable and enjoyable to talk with in most contexts relevant to hackers. But every once in a while a topic like this one comes along and you discover that they believe homosexual propaganda is a thing, that persecuting homosexuals is a valid move to maximize reproduction, and that we should respect oppressive systems because of their culture.