I think the point though is that equality for same-sex couples and a cultural expectation to retire with the children are not really compatible. If you have th

I think the point though is that equality for same-sex couples and a cultural expectation to retire with the children are not really compatible. If you have the latter, then the parents have more power over the spousal choices of the children but "accidental" pregnancy is almost always across cultures a good veto override. Since this is only available to opposite-sex couples, this gives parents very strong ways of discriminating against children in same-sex relationships. So my point is that the traditional family in the sense of three or more generations living under one root, sharing meals, and there being reciprocal care duties between parents and children cannot allow the equality folks are talking about. Destroying that (and establishing the American-style family and retirement as the norm) is a prerequisite to any meaningful equality and that's the source of my objection.