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I can't seem to find their privacy policy and ToS document is in French. I think I'll pass. In fact, the only mention of privacy I found is "respect for privac

by Aoyagi 13y ago

I can't seem to find their privacy policy and ToS document is in French. I think I'll pass. In fact, the only mention of privacy I found is "respect for privacy" in data security.

icebraining 13y ago
Encryption is harder to break than any privacy policy.
- mateuszf 13y ago
  Don't see any mention about encryption on the page. Or are you suggesting that it can be done manually by user?
  - icebraining 13y ago
    The latter.
- Aoyagi 13y ago
  Is wanting both unreasonable? I didn't think so.
  - simias 13y ago
    I think the point is that you can't trust third party encryption/privacy statements anyway. If you really care about your privacy you should encrypt your files on your side. There are plenty of solutions to do just that. Everything else is the equivalent of the "do not track" header, security through homeopathy.
    - Aoyagi 13y ago
      Privacy policy / TOS is something you can base legal cases on in some countries and something certain organizations try to check. And I just have difficulties to trust companies that simply don't say anything on the matter. It doesn't seem to you like they're hiding something? Though yes, I agree that nothing you don't do on your own is really trustworthy. That's why I don't use online storage for storing confidential data, heh. Only puush for the little things. (what's going on with Puush anyway? They've been silent since "going down for maintenance briefly" in September). I guess treating internet as if there is no privacy is for the best.
sgoody 13y ago
It is unfortunate that they ask you to "confirm having read and fully understood the hubiC General Terms and Conditions (sic)" in English, but then present the terms and conditions in French. Absolutely nothing against the French language, but there's a clear disconnect there. Hey ho, it's not like I read them anyway!
kriro 13y ago
https://hubic.com/en/data-security https://hubic.com/en/data-security It's marketing but... """ Only you can access and share the contents of your hubiC space using your username and password. You are also solely responsible for the content you place on hubiC and share with your contacts. As the OVH servers are installed on French soil, the hubiC service is subject to French legislation, which is particularly demanding in terms of personal data protection and respect for privacy. So, unlike many online storage providers that use machines located on US territory, hubiC does not fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Patriot Act, which authorises the security services to access any computerised data held by individuals and businesses, without obtaining prior authorisation and without informing users. """ French/Euro laws are fairly good iirc. (feel free to check yourself) and companies generally follow them. Interestingly I lived near Roubaix for a while and never noticed a data center :) Edit: from my not so great French (reading the terms): They are responsible for security, everything SSL, privacy respected, won't hinder you if you want to move your data [IANAL but looks like a fairly standard French legal IT document...at least it is similarly structure like my work contract was]
- catwell 13y ago
  > Interestingly I lived near Roubaix for a while and never noticed a data center :) Then you may be interested in this thread: https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/data-center-ovh-roubaix-4/ https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/data-center-ovh-roubaix-... They also have datacenters in Strasbourg, Paris, Gravelines and Montreal (Canada), but I am not sure if they host part of the hubiC service there.
DomreiRoam 13y ago
For the privacy part they should conform at minimum to European and French privacy law. French privacy Law offers some protection and the CNIL seems to enforce the law.

by Aoyagi 13y ago

I can't seem to find their privacy policy and ToS document is in French. I think I'll pass. In fact, the only mention of privacy I found is "respect for privacy" in data security.

icebraining 13y ago

Encryption is harder to break than any privacy policy.

mateuszf 13y ago
Don't see any mention about encryption on the page. Or are you suggesting that it can be done manually by user?
- icebraining 13y ago
  The latter.
Aoyagi 13y ago
Is wanting both unreasonable? I didn't think so.
- simias 13y ago
  I think the point is that you can't trust third party encryption/privacy statements anyway. If you really care about your privacy you should encrypt your files on your side. There are plenty of solutions to do just that. Everything else is the equivalent of the "do not track" header, security through homeopathy.
  - Aoyagi 13y ago
    Privacy policy / TOS is something you can base legal cases on in some countries and something certain organizations try to check. And I just have difficulties to trust companies that simply don't say anything on the matter. It doesn't seem to you like they're hiding something? Though yes, I agree that nothing you don't do on your own is really trustworthy. That's why I don't use online storage for storing confidential data, heh. Only puush for the little things. (what's going on with Puush anyway? They've been silent since "going down for maintenance briefly" in September). I guess treating internet as if there is no privacy is for the best.

sgoody 13y ago

It is unfortunate that they ask you to "confirm having read and fully understood the hubiC General Terms and Conditions (sic)" in English, but then present the terms and conditions in French. Absolutely nothing against the French language, but there's a clear disconnect there. Hey ho, it's not like I read them anyway!

kriro 13y ago

https://hubic.com/en/data-security https://hubic.com/en/data-security It's marketing but... """ Only you can access and share the contents of your hubiC space using your username and password. You are also solely responsible for the content you place on hubiC and share with your contacts. As the OVH servers are installed on French soil, the hubiC service is subject to French legislation, which is particularly demanding in terms of personal data protection and respect for privacy. So, unlike many online storage providers that use machines located on US territory, hubiC does not fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Patriot Act, which authorises the security services to access any computerised data held by individuals and businesses, without obtaining prior authorisation and without informing users. """ French/Euro laws are fairly good iirc. (feel free to check yourself) and companies generally follow them. Interestingly I lived near Roubaix for a while and never noticed a data center :) Edit: from my not so great French (reading the terms): They are responsible for security, everything SSL, privacy respected, won't hinder you if you want to move your data [IANAL but looks like a fairly standard French legal IT document...at least it is similarly structure like my work contract was]

catwell 13y ago
> Interestingly I lived near Roubaix for a while and never noticed a data center :) Then you may be interested in this thread: https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/data-center-ovh-roubaix-4/ https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/data-center-ovh-roubaix-... They also have datacenters in Strasbourg, Paris, Gravelines and Montreal (Canada), but I am not sure if they host part of the hubiC service there.

DomreiRoam 13y ago

For the privacy part they should conform at minimum to European and French privacy law. French privacy Law offers some protection and the CNIL seems to enforce the law.