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You offer a lot of piss and vinegar, yet little insight. Please elaborate on "fantasy and reality" and "science fiction" instead of throwing up bombasitc refut

by l33tbro 13y ago

You offer a lot of piss and vinegar, yet little insight. Please elaborate on "fantasy and reality" and "science fiction" instead of throwing up bombasitc refute. Also, parent post has no mention of Reddit. What are you actually saying here? IF you're going to barate parent comment, then you're going to have to (at the very least) back it up with a few reasons why his/her system would fail.

williamcotton 13y ago
The basic tenant is know as 'conservatism'. You may be surprised to realize just how lacking in radicalism any sustainable political systems are. US style liberal democracy wasn't a large departure from UK style parliamentary democracy. The president is modeled on the King, the Senate on the House of Lords and the House of Representatives on the House of Commons. Slowly over time the Senate and the Presidency were made more directly democratic. Our system of common law has a continuous chain of statements going back to England for many hundreds of years. Capitalism was going on for hundreds of years before it was described by Adam Smith. You know what always fails? When a group of nitwits gets together and decides they've got it all figured out and then submit the rest of society to their hair-brained ideas. In the last 100 years engineers have have played a large role in a number. See: Franco, Pinochet, Mussolini. So yeah, expect a lot of vitriol from students of history when some engineers start getting really excited about playing the role of political radical. The meritocracy the SV loves so much is basically a nightmare when applied to society st large. You'll have designed a system by and for computer engineers with the premise that all of the unwashed masses will either have to sink or swim in your newly founded utopia system. You're going to fuck it up and along with that you're going to fuck up millions of lives. Are there any fucking adults on this forum any more? Do your parents know where you are? If not, you should probably call and let hem know, they are probably worried sick.
snowwrestler 13y ago
From the parent post: > Think about how many great things have sprung out of places like Reddit. To think about what is lacking in the fantasy lets start with what happens when there is no overwhelming support for anything. How does a whiz-bang networking technology solve fundamental human disagreements? It's also worth asking if speed of execution is really the defining characteristic of a good government. Plenty of horrible governments have been able to get horrible things done quickly and efficiently.

by l33tbro 13y ago

williamcotton 13y ago

The basic tenant is know as 'conservatism'. You may be surprised to realize just how lacking in radicalism any sustainable political systems are. US style liberal democracy wasn't a large departure from UK style parliamentary democracy. The president is modeled on the King, the Senate on the House of Lords and the House of Representatives on the House of Commons. Slowly over time the Senate and the Presidency were made more directly democratic. Our system of common law has a continuous chain of statements going back to England for many hundreds of years. Capitalism was going on for hundreds of years before it was described by Adam Smith. You know what always fails? When a group of nitwits gets together and decides they've got it all figured out and then submit the rest of society to their hair-brained ideas. In the last 100 years engineers have have played a large role in a number. See: Franco, Pinochet, Mussolini. So yeah, expect a lot of vitriol from students of history when some engineers start getting really excited about playing the role of political radical. The meritocracy the SV loves so much is basically a nightmare when applied to society st large. You'll have designed a system by and for computer engineers with the premise that all of the unwashed masses will either have to sink or swim in your newly founded utopia system. You're going to fuck it up and along with that you're going to fuck up millions of lives. Are there any fucking adults on this forum any more? Do your parents know where you are? If not, you should probably call and let hem know, they are probably worried sick.

snowwrestler 13y ago

From the parent post: > Think about how many great things have sprung out of places like Reddit. To think about what is lacking in the fantasy lets start with what happens when there is no overwhelming support for anything. How does a whiz-bang networking technology solve fundamental human disagreements? It's also worth asking if speed of execution is really the defining characteristic of a good government. Plenty of horrible governments have been able to get horrible things done quickly and efficiently.