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The longer version of the report shows more details: http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-news-web-extra/honeypot-tests-likelihood-of-hackings-in-russia-1375959716

The longer version of the report shows more details: http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-news-web-extra/honeypot-tests-likelihood-of-hackings-in-russia-137595971642 http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-news-web-extra/honeypot-tes... On the phone they went to a website and ignored warnings in order to download and execute a malicious APK. On the PC they followed a link in a scammy looking phishing email to download and open a malicious Office document. On the Mac they visited a website that had an ad suggesting that they needed an "antivirus program" so they downloaded and installed it. So the devices were hacked not because Sochi is especially dangerous, but because of pure stupidity. Nothing can help you if you deliberately ignore warnings, and deliberately install Trojan horse malware. The exact same thing would have happened in the US.

Einstalbert 13y ago
Wow that's a ridiculous spin of them to make...
mladenkovacevic 13y ago
But wait we can still stay on the #Sochiproblems bandwagon right?!
- Smegger 13y ago
  #Secondworld problems
- adobriyan 13y ago
  Remember when Georgia attacked Southern Osetia night before China Olympics? Our western friends are more delicate this time.
  - ochekurishvili 13y ago
    And Russian reaction was correct right? Ignore boundaries of sovereign state (Georgia), annex its' territories outside of conflict zone (Gori, Georgia) and all in order to "defend their friends". Are you aware that Russia perfectly timed it's Kavkaz 2008 military training near the border of Georgian Region of South Osetia? Just several days earlier before conflict heated up. And what Russia does when conflict begins? Forwards it's Kavkaz 2008 troops towards Georgia as soon as conflict begins. What a coincidence... BTW, name South Ossetia was created (yes created) by USSR which aimed to take control over Caucasus, and Georgia was kind of too unified by that time, that was against Russian plans.
    - powertower 13y ago
      If I recall the events correctly, the majority of the civilians that were in the conflict zones ran-to the Russian side - instead of the other way around. That should tell you who the transgressors were that were attacking those same civilians. Again, if I recall correctly, a good number of those civilians in the "conflict zones" had dual citizenship or at least a Russian passport. So when Georgia started shelling them, Russia responded.
      - ochekurishvili 13y ago
        Not correct. Russia has been deploying Russian passports in the conflict zone for two decades, by force... So the reason "defend our citizens, friends" was a "Putin-made". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/2651836/South-Ossetian-police-tell-Georgians-to-take-a-Russian-passport-or-leave-their-homes.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/265... Many Ossetians headed south to the Georgian side as conflict began, before Russian troops took Tskinvali. Many of them now live in a refugee camps near Gori. http://www.demotix.com/news/77308/refugee-camp-gori-georgia#media-77273 http://www.demotix.com/news/77308/refugee-camp-gori-georgia#... And there have been an ethnic cleansing of Georgians after Russian troops arrived: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_South_Ossetia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_...
        powertower 13y ago
        You first statement is not supported by the article. It only states that after the Russian military came in they started issuing passports for identification purposes. The other points can also be challenged considering there are always going to be some numbers in the population that that are pro-Russian and some that are anti-Russian in that region. And there will be further conflict with the anti side.
        ochekurishvili 13y ago
        The very first Google search result on Russian passports in the province of South Ossetia: http://www.loc.gov/law/help/russian-georgia-war.php http://www.loc.gov/law/help/russian-georgia-war.php We can argue on details endlessly and it's against my intention. The case is complicated indeed. To keep it simple: Russia has been "operating" in this region for a long time and it's intention has always been to control Caucasus. It still continues such politics.
osipov 13y ago
A bit offtopic but the recent "Russian anti-gay law" media coverage is as credible as this hacking story: http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Olympics_of_Hate_in_a_Nation_of_Anti-Gay_Laws%3F_/32494/0/38/38/Y/M.html http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Olympics_of_Hate_in_a_Nat...
- chimeracoder 13y ago
  That analysis isn't entirely accurate either. For example: > Since 1993 gay sex was made legal in Russia, in 12 US States gay sex is a crime. The law is still on the books, but ever since Lawrence v. Texas[0], gay sex is legal in all 50 states (and all US territories). They're on the books simply because of inertia - there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Others include: > In Russia you cannot be fired from your job for being an LGBT individual, in the United States you can This depends highly on the state. Some states even protect transgender individuals. Also, comparing Russia's laws to the US's laws is inherently flawed. For example, I could mention that Iran conducts more sex reassignment operations than any other country in the entire world, except Thailand![1] But before we go ahead and praise Iran for being progressive with regard to transgender rights, let's understand that they do this because they assume that homosexuality and being trans are the same thing, and the government pays for forced gender reassignment of gay people[2]. So it's very easy to make the US look bad in comparison to other countries, especially since the US is more federated than many other countries (ie, states have more leeway), and the US is larger (so it's easier to cherry-pick examples). But that doesn't mean the US is actually worse. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v_texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v_texas [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran [2] There's some subtlety to this (we could debate the exact nature of the word "forced"), but that's basically how it works.
  - impendia 13y ago
    > there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Well... in 2000 (!), Alabama repealed its laws against interracial marriage, which had been invalidated in 1967 in Loving v. Virginia. http://www.salon.com/2001/03/08/sollors/ http://www.salon.com/2001/03/08/sollors/
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Shivetya 13y ago
I guess next is for some so called news organization to put toy rocket motors into pickup trucks and crash them? On a side note, who still takes anything the big three networks push? Let alone lets not forget, Russia isn't politically correct so portraying them in a negative light is allowed if not desired.
raverbashing 13y ago
Next they will jump on a frozen lake and die then report Sochi is dangerous because if you jump on a frozen lake it's risky (Yes, I know there are no frozen lakes in Sochi, it's an example)
- tanzam75 13y ago
  > (Yes, I know there are no frozen lakes in Sochi, it's an example) I'm sure he can find a frozen lake in Moscow to jump on. After all, the reporter was in Moscow -- not Sochi -- for the hacking story.
tim333 13y ago
> So the devices were hacked... because of pure stupidity. Well, more they were hacked because someone smart deliberately got them hacked. I don't actually know someone inept enough to achieve all three without help. It's actually quite hard to find malware these days if you use Google and the like to find sites as they are quite good at blocking them.

Einstalbert 13y ago

Wow that's a ridiculous spin of them to make...

mladenkovacevic 13y ago

But wait we can still stay on the #Sochiproblems bandwagon right?!

Smegger 13y ago
#Secondworld problems
adobriyan 13y ago
Remember when Georgia attacked Southern Osetia night before China Olympics? Our western friends are more delicate this time.
- ochekurishvili 13y ago
  And Russian reaction was correct right? Ignore boundaries of sovereign state (Georgia), annex its' territories outside of conflict zone (Gori, Georgia) and all in order to "defend their friends". Are you aware that Russia perfectly timed it's Kavkaz 2008 military training near the border of Georgian Region of South Osetia? Just several days earlier before conflict heated up. And what Russia does when conflict begins? Forwards it's Kavkaz 2008 troops towards Georgia as soon as conflict begins. What a coincidence... BTW, name South Ossetia was created (yes created) by USSR which aimed to take control over Caucasus, and Georgia was kind of too unified by that time, that was against Russian plans.
  - powertower 13y ago
    If I recall the events correctly, the majority of the civilians that were in the conflict zones ran-to the Russian side - instead of the other way around. That should tell you who the transgressors were that were attacking those same civilians. Again, if I recall correctly, a good number of those civilians in the "conflict zones" had dual citizenship or at least a Russian passport. So when Georgia started shelling them, Russia responded.
    - ochekurishvili 13y ago
      Not correct. Russia has been deploying Russian passports in the conflict zone for two decades, by force... So the reason "defend our citizens, friends" was a "Putin-made". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/2651836/South-Ossetian-police-tell-Georgians-to-take-a-Russian-passport-or-leave-their-homes.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/265... Many Ossetians headed south to the Georgian side as conflict began, before Russian troops took Tskinvali. Many of them now live in a refugee camps near Gori. http://www.demotix.com/news/77308/refugee-camp-gori-georgia#media-77273 http://www.demotix.com/news/77308/refugee-camp-gori-georgia#... And there have been an ethnic cleansing of Georgians after Russian troops arrived: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_South_Ossetia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_...
      - powertower 13y ago
        You first statement is not supported by the article. It only states that after the Russian military came in they started issuing passports for identification purposes. The other points can also be challenged considering there are always going to be some numbers in the population that that are pro-Russian and some that are anti-Russian in that region. And there will be further conflict with the anti side.
        ochekurishvili 13y ago
        The very first Google search result on Russian passports in the province of South Ossetia: http://www.loc.gov/law/help/russian-georgia-war.php http://www.loc.gov/law/help/russian-georgia-war.php We can argue on details endlessly and it's against my intention. The case is complicated indeed. To keep it simple: Russia has been "operating" in this region for a long time and it's intention has always been to control Caucasus. It still continues such politics.

osipov 13y ago

A bit offtopic but the recent "Russian anti-gay law" media coverage is as credible as this hacking story: http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Olympics_of_Hate_in_a_Nation_of_Anti-Gay_Laws%3F_/32494/0/38/38/Y/M.html http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Olympics_of_Hate_in_a_Nat...

chimeracoder 13y ago
That analysis isn't entirely accurate either. For example: > Since 1993 gay sex was made legal in Russia, in 12 US States gay sex is a crime. The law is still on the books, but ever since Lawrence v. Texas[0], gay sex is legal in all 50 states (and all US territories). They're on the books simply because of inertia - there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Others include: > In Russia you cannot be fired from your job for being an LGBT individual, in the United States you can This depends highly on the state. Some states even protect transgender individuals. Also, comparing Russia's laws to the US's laws is inherently flawed. For example, I could mention that Iran conducts more sex reassignment operations than any other country in the entire world, except Thailand![1] But before we go ahead and praise Iran for being progressive with regard to transgender rights, let's understand that they do this because they assume that homosexuality and being trans are the same thing, and the government pays for forced gender reassignment of gay people[2]. So it's very easy to make the US look bad in comparison to other countries, especially since the US is more federated than many other countries (ie, states have more leeway), and the US is larger (so it's easier to cherry-pick examples). But that doesn't mean the US is actually worse. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v_texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v_texas [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran [2] There's some subtlety to this (we could debate the exact nature of the word "forced"), but that's basically how it works.
- impendia 13y ago
  > there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Well... in 2000 (!), Alabama repealed its laws against interracial marriage, which had been invalidated in 1967 in Loving v. Virginia. http://www.salon.com/2001/03/08/sollors/ http://www.salon.com/2001/03/08/sollors/

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Shivetya 13y ago

I guess next is for some so called news organization to put toy rocket motors into pickup trucks and crash them? On a side note, who still takes anything the big three networks push? Let alone lets not forget, Russia isn't politically correct so portraying them in a negative light is allowed if not desired.

raverbashing 13y ago

Next they will jump on a frozen lake and die then report Sochi is dangerous because if you jump on a frozen lake it's risky (Yes, I know there are no frozen lakes in Sochi, it's an example)

tanzam75 13y ago
> (Yes, I know there are no frozen lakes in Sochi, it's an example) I'm sure he can find a frozen lake in Moscow to jump on. After all, the reporter was in Moscow -- not Sochi -- for the hacking story.

tim333 13y ago

> So the devices were hacked... because of pure stupidity. Well, more they were hacked because someone smart deliberately got them hacked. I don't actually know someone inept enough to achieve all three without help. It's actually quite hard to find malware these days if you use Google and the like to find sites as they are quite good at blocking them.