> The following shows pre-agile thinking on development Oh come on! When he says that "until you really get there and write it out..." shows a lot of agile thi

> The following shows pre-agile thinking on development Oh come on! When he says that "until you really get there and write it out..." shows a lot of agile thinking. Agile does not in any way exclude design before writing code! He also talks about rewriting (refactoring). It wasn't that different of a time!