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Show HN: Firesub – Reusable checklists for teams [MVP]
- alexduggleby 13y agoLooking forward to seeing what the first/final version of this looks like and offers. Definitely need this kind of service a lot. I was thinking about something like this ever since I heard them speaking of a social checklist app on http://techzinglive.com/page/1419/250-tz-discussion-rise-of-the-human-robot http://techzinglive.com/page/1419/250-tz-discussion-rise-of-... . Actually I would strongly think about adding a way to share and find checklists, maybe even a checklist store for larger checklists (e.g. conference planning) instead of having to come up with every checklist from scratch. Good luck and endurance!
- FrejNorling 13y agoHey Alex, Thanks for the feedback. The very first prototype had a discovery feature where you could publish your own checklist under categories, much like the App store but within the app and for checklists. I decided early on that it would be a version 2 feature, because what good does it make to be able to easily find new checklists if completeing them is not "butter-smoth", another concern is of course that the "store" would be exceptionally empty in the beginning. But the featuer is still in the "future features"-list. Thanks for the enguragement, it gives energy! =)
- iamben 13y agoLooks great! Well done! Just a quick comment about the first heading: "Every team have recurrent tasks to perform" doesn't sound right to me. I'd probably put: "Every team has recurring tasks to perform" - or at least replace the 'have' with a 'has' :-)
- FrejNorling 13y agoThank you very much! I have change the heading. Now it has has in it. =)
- ycmike 13y agoI really like this notion after reading "The Checklist Manifesto" and seeing how important recurring checklists are.
- FrejNorling 13y agoMe too, recurring checklists is a very powerful tool. A little "easter egg" is the backgrounds that comes after the first image in the header. Everyone who have read "The Checklist Manifesto" will understand. =)
- ycmike 13y agoHaha I noticed that!
- hdragomir 13y agoBig hat tip! I feel that to do apps are all very lacking in this respect, the reusable aspect.
- FrejNorling 13y agoThanks, I do to. Also I belive checklists in companies and teams are under used. There is a lot of great To Do apps out there but nothing specially design for reuse within teams and organizations.
- FrejNorling 13y agoHi, I'm the creator of Firesub. Hopfully you like the idea. I'm very happy to answer any feedback you guys have.
- nodata 13y agoClicking "Show more" doesn't show me an example. Could it?
- FrejNorling 13y agoSorry of it is unclear, it is suposed to scroll you down so you can read more about the app, what browser do you run on?
- nodata 13y agoIt scrolls down, but I never see an actual example of the product.
- FrejNorling 13y agoThat's a misstake I'v made, to not provide a demo. I'v recorded a quick screencast [0] how it looks and works that you can view. [0] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivw7XEI8xDs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivw7XEI8xDs
- FreshCode 13y agoHi Frej, your MVP landing page is beautifully designed, but it it does not tell me why I would need your product, or really what it is. There are lists and lists of features, but no demos or examples to explain why they are useful. Sell benefits, not features. Good luck!
- FrejNorling 13y agoHi, thanks for your feedback, appreciate it, you are right, I fell in the classical trap of feature selling. I was aiming for a video to showcase the app, but it would have been a lot of work just to validate a simple idea: is this useful, do people need this?
- nate 13y agoLooks useful. You might want to have a friend copy-edit your page. There are quite a few grammar errors on here. "Your Feed allow" -> "Your Feed allows". "when your team need them" -> "when your team needs them"
- FrejNorling 13y agoThanks. Ohh man, I'v had 3 different people proof read the page multiple times. Guess you can't have to much copy edit. =) I'v corrected your suggestions, thanks!
- derwiki 13y agoYou might check out http://www.criticue.com http://www.criticue.com -- I use them as a quick grammar/WTF check before press pushes.
- FrejNorling 13y agoThanks, will definitely look them up. It's hard when you're not english speaking. =)
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- guynamedloren 13y agoI'm confused, is this ready to be used or not? I was excited to play around with it so I signed up, only to be hit with a 'still in development' notification. Typically, MVP implies a product that's ready to be use. This appears to be more of a landing page teaser. Regardless, looks like a cool service, and congrats on your progress thus far!
- FrejNorling 13y agoThank you, it was never my intention to trick anyone into beleving it was a fully functioning service. Thats why I put the [MVP] tag in the title. There is of coures different views on what a MVP is. Sorry again if you feel tricked. You can email me at frej@firesub.com and I will remove your mail address so you don't get a email when this is ready to be tested if you want. That being said, thanks for your encuragement, it helps! =)
- pkmishra 13y agoMVP doesn't mean it have to be perfect but it also doesn't mean that even basic things have not been taken care of. It's always good to receive feedback early in the cycle but to receive the feedback one should be able to play with the app. I liked the information about the product but it is definitely not MVP. Currently It is no different that showing a ppt.
- FrejNorling 13y agoI do not dissagree with you, the hacker news community is, of course used to play with new ideas showcased here, but after reading stuff from Eric Rise and Steve Blank and .co I decided to go after a "Minimal MVP" so to speak. Hopefully no one is feling tricked by the title, if so, I'm sorry and beg your pardon.
- mcintyre1994 13y agoI think the easy solution here would be to adjust your wording a little on the landing page to tell me I'm signing up to hear more information and be informed when it launches - not that I'm signing up to "get started". You have saved my email I gave you so you can keep me updated right? That's not clear in your text either but you really should be doing it and letting people know that you are. In terms of feedback, well I tried to sign up so I guess that tells you I liked it a lot, can you elaborate on how far along it actually is? Are the various screenshots current development status or are they just mockups at the moment? Your blog only has one post and it just shows a photo of a laptop on this landing page. I'm not a big fan of the tagline, it seems really convoluted - reusable checklists for teams is much closer to what it should be I think. Also I spotted a small typo, "Create beautiful and simple checklists that is easy to maintain and...", is should be are. :) You should put a sign up button under each of the package options too, and use your analytics to see where people sign up. But really, most importantly, your website tells me your product is ready to get started with, I tried and now I don't know where in the process of being built it is. I really suggest clearing it up. :)
- nonrecursive 13y agoI created something similar a few years ago: http://openhercules.com/ http://openhercules.com/ . It supports reusing lists through an explicit clone. Source is at https://github.com/flyingmachine/openhercules https://github.com/flyingmachine/openhercules .
- josephlord 13y agoIf someone wants an existing but offline only checklists app you can try mine: Fast Lists [0]. It includes options for nesting and hiding the already ticked items so it can be used with large lists. I haven't added synchronisation yet as I'm not sure the return would be worth the time and I'm also concerned about conflict resolution and data loss. The OP has a picture of a cockpit which would imply a safety critical environment. I would think long and hard before selling my app in that way especially for an online service. [0] https://itunes.apple.com/app/fast-lists-checklists-for/id481282554 https://itunes.apple.com/app/fast-lists-checklists-for/id481...
- FrejNorling 13y agoYour app looks nice, good work. When it comes to your valid concern about the safety of pilots using a always-online application I agree with you, that would not be very smart, but nowadays there is technical soulutions around this problem [0]. Alsow it is a hint to everyone who have read the book "The checklist manifesto" by Atul Gawande, I recomend it! [0] http://diveintohtml5.info/offline.html http://diveintohtml5.info/offline.html Edit: Sounded to harsh, not my intention.
- FrejNorling 13y agoI'v captured a screencast [0], literally a minute ago, of how app works, it's the worst quality ever but it showcases the idéa and the problem the app solves. [0] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivw7XEI8xDs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivw7XEI8xDs
- jroes 13y agoIf you like the idea of this sort of thing, you might also check out https://github.com/csquared/checkcheckit https://github.com/csquared/checkcheckit. It lets you make checklists in Markdown, execute code in code blocks, and share progress live on the web with your team.
- FrejNorling 13y agoI have seen it, and it's nice and a fun idea but for the ordinary man or women, well, I really don't need to say more. =)
- jroes 13y agoYeah. It works really well on a dev team. We use it in our team all the time for things before we transition them into a fully-automated process.
- jesalg 13y agoIt should be titled MVC => Minimum Viable Concept
- FrejNorling 13y agoThat would have been a more accurate description. I can´t change the title now, the edit button is gone.