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Its ok for you that they decide, what apps you can or cant have in a device you bought with your own money? Libertarian response: yes, it's perfectly OK, so lo

Its ok for you that they decide, what apps you can or cant have in a device you bought with your own money? Libertarian response: yes, it's perfectly OK, so long as Apple did not use force or fraud to get me to buy their device and agree to their terms of service. Next question?

Shinkei 13y ago
This is not the Libertarian response. Google and Apple are now stewards of a captive audience--namely smartphone users. They possess a partial monopoly that should be unrestricted to competing products using their platform. IE vs. other broswers, etc. Sure they are free to censor pornography or offensive content, but if they launch a porn service and restrict others from offering a competing app in their marketplace, that could definitely be anti-competitive. Sure, users could flee to the competing device... but what happens if Google decides to do the same?
greyman 13y ago
Ok, but it is not very ethical. I bought their device with a good faith, that I will be able to perform most mobile computational needs with it - the device was advertised as such. Now, my need includes also to manage my crypto-currencies wealth, and Apple doesn't allow me to do that, without even properly explaining why. Now, I can potentially lose money due to this policy. So, I agree it is legally ok, but not morally ok.
oscargrouch 13y ago
After you buy it, you can smash the device on a wall if you want? wouldnt you? Now, what if Apple has expressely forbid you to do so.. would you think its fair? What im trying to elucidate here, is the issue with ownership and property.. if you want to piss in your device you should be allowed to do it.. its yours.. But control what you can use, play or watch inside of your device is ok for you? i dont understand your logic.. Ok, so you are a conscious guy that dont buy the thing because you dont like the policy in it.. but then you need a new TV from JoeTV.. oh wait.. in their terms of service they dont allow your kids to watch TV after 8 PM.. Point being: If one can do it (and are not regulated), everyone else can.. a conscious minority not buying their products wont be even missed.. This is selfish and wont stop the big guys from abusing their power to abuse us
- ubernostrum 13y ago
  What im trying to elucidate here, is the issue with ownership and property The problem you're missing is that many purchases are governed by contracts which can and sometimes do have obligations for the purchaser after the moment of purchase. Additionally, you only have the ability to operate certain software pursuant to the terms of a license agreement, which is yet another contract. Do you feel you should have the right to breach contracts when you feel like it?

Shinkei 13y ago

This is not the Libertarian response. Google and Apple are now stewards of a captive audience--namely smartphone users. They possess a partial monopoly that should be unrestricted to competing products using their platform. IE vs. other broswers, etc. Sure they are free to censor pornography or offensive content, but if they launch a porn service and restrict others from offering a competing app in their marketplace, that could definitely be anti-competitive. Sure, users could flee to the competing device... but what happens if Google decides to do the same?

greyman 13y ago

Ok, but it is not very ethical. I bought their device with a good faith, that I will be able to perform most mobile computational needs with it - the device was advertised as such. Now, my need includes also to manage my crypto-currencies wealth, and Apple doesn't allow me to do that, without even properly explaining why. Now, I can potentially lose money due to this policy. So, I agree it is legally ok, but not morally ok.

oscargrouch 13y ago

After you buy it, you can smash the device on a wall if you want? wouldnt you? Now, what if Apple has expressely forbid you to do so.. would you think its fair? What im trying to elucidate here, is the issue with ownership and property.. if you want to piss in your device you should be allowed to do it.. its yours.. But control what you can use, play or watch inside of your device is ok for you? i dont understand your logic.. Ok, so you are a conscious guy that dont buy the thing because you dont like the policy in it.. but then you need a new TV from JoeTV.. oh wait.. in their terms of service they dont allow your kids to watch TV after 8 PM.. Point being: If one can do it (and are not regulated), everyone else can.. a conscious minority not buying their products wont be even missed.. This is selfish and wont stop the big guys from abusing their power to abuse us

ubernostrum 13y ago
What im trying to elucidate here, is the issue with ownership and property The problem you're missing is that many purchases are governed by contracts which can and sometimes do have obligations for the purchaser after the moment of purchase. Additionally, you only have the ability to operate certain software pursuant to the terms of a license agreement, which is yet another contract. Do you feel you should have the right to breach contracts when you feel like it?