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What's the best way to make noise about this? Sure, I can switch to Android but A) I don't really want to do that and B) losing a handful of Bitcoin enthusiast

What's the best way to make noise about this? Sure, I can switch to Android but A) I don't really want to do that and B) losing a handful of Bitcoin enthusiasts to another platform is really not going to dent Apple in any way.

ye 13y ago
Switch to Android. It will make a dent. Bitcoin people are not a random demographic, they are early adopters, many are entrepreneurs, most are young.
- 27182818284 13y ago
  They mention there were only 120K downloads. It may be true that bitcoin people are early adopters, but those early adopters aren't using wallets downloaded from the app store. For comparison December 2013 saw 3 billion total app downloads. Early adopters of iOS bitcoin wallet apps are a fraction of a fraction of a niche right now.
  - ye 13y ago
    A) Bitcoin is not as big as you think, yet. 120K downloads is not that bad. B) Since Apple is so hostile towards Bitcoin, many people have switched to better alternatives and simply don't care about Apple's private North Korea with an insane leader.
- ceejayoz 13y ago
  I don't think Apple cares all that much about losing early adopters at this stage, and the number of folks willing to switch platform over Bitcoin wallet apps isn't going to be the slightest bit noticeable.
  - sentenza 13y ago
    I'm no friend of Bitcoin, but won't disregarding early adopters lead them one step closer to becoming Microsoft?
- threeseed 13y ago
  Any "dent" would be eclipsed by Apple running another TV ad in China or India. I doubt they could care less.
  - jasonlotito 13y ago
    It's not one dent that makes a difference. But a thousand little dents do make a difference.
gcb0 13y ago
Return your device. Say you bought for this and now it is useless. And maybe sue for punitive damages. And then move to palm, windows, webos.. because moving to android will just make you do the same thing to google in a couple months.
- ceejayoz 13y ago
  Palm's gone, I'm not sure why you'd think Microsoft would be any different than Google/Apple regarding Bitcoin, and webOS was Palm's OS.
  - gcb0 13y ago
    ironically, microsoft is less toxic nowadays than osx for software freedom.
- myko 13y ago
  With Android you don't need to rely on Google to install third party applications on your own hardware.
  - gcb0 13y ago
    technically. but then, neither with ios. but its not whats being discussed.
ossreality 13y ago
Just switch to Android. Seriously, so tired of iOS users continuing to act like Android is the second class citizen. Hasn't been that way for quite a while..
Geee 13y ago
Sadly, Android is not secure enough for Bitcoin apps.
- bigiain 13y ago
  Arguably the same could (should?) be said about iOS.
  - thethimble 13y ago
    What aspects of Android (or any OS, in general) make it unsafe for bitcoin use?
  - letstryagain 13y ago
    Android is the wild west compared to iOS
- ye 13y ago
  Bullshit.
freyrs3 13y ago
The only rational response is to weigh the benefits of developing for and using the iOS ecosystem with your convictions about general purpose computing. If you don't think Apple shouldn't have this kind of power then don't use their products and don't support the Mac ecosystem.
higherpurpose 13y ago
Switch to Android and recommend other people to buy only Android phones from now on. Actively discourage people from buying iPhones. It will make a dent.

ye 13y ago

Switch to Android. It will make a dent. Bitcoin people are not a random demographic, they are early adopters, many are entrepreneurs, most are young.

27182818284 13y ago
They mention there were only 120K downloads. It may be true that bitcoin people are early adopters, but those early adopters aren't using wallets downloaded from the app store. For comparison December 2013 saw 3 billion total app downloads. Early adopters of iOS bitcoin wallet apps are a fraction of a fraction of a niche right now.
- ye 13y ago
  A) Bitcoin is not as big as you think, yet. 120K downloads is not that bad. B) Since Apple is so hostile towards Bitcoin, many people have switched to better alternatives and simply don't care about Apple's private North Korea with an insane leader.
ceejayoz 13y ago
I don't think Apple cares all that much about losing early adopters at this stage, and the number of folks willing to switch platform over Bitcoin wallet apps isn't going to be the slightest bit noticeable.
- sentenza 13y ago
  I'm no friend of Bitcoin, but won't disregarding early adopters lead them one step closer to becoming Microsoft?
threeseed 13y ago
Any "dent" would be eclipsed by Apple running another TV ad in China or India. I doubt they could care less.
- jasonlotito 13y ago
  It's not one dent that makes a difference. But a thousand little dents do make a difference.

gcb0 13y ago

Return your device. Say you bought for this and now it is useless. And maybe sue for punitive damages. And then move to palm, windows, webos.. because moving to android will just make you do the same thing to google in a couple months.

ceejayoz 13y ago
Palm's gone, I'm not sure why you'd think Microsoft would be any different than Google/Apple regarding Bitcoin, and webOS was Palm's OS.
- gcb0 13y ago
  ironically, microsoft is less toxic nowadays than osx for software freedom.
myko 13y ago
With Android you don't need to rely on Google to install third party applications on your own hardware.
- gcb0 13y ago
  technically. but then, neither with ios. but its not whats being discussed.

ossreality 13y ago

Just switch to Android. Seriously, so tired of iOS users continuing to act like Android is the second class citizen. Hasn't been that way for quite a while..

Geee 13y ago

Sadly, Android is not secure enough for Bitcoin apps.

bigiain 13y ago
Arguably the same could (should?) be said about iOS.
- thethimble 13y ago
  What aspects of Android (or any OS, in general) make it unsafe for bitcoin use?
- letstryagain 13y ago
  Android is the wild west compared to iOS
ye 13y ago
Bullshit.

freyrs3 13y ago

The only rational response is to weigh the benefits of developing for and using the iOS ecosystem with your convictions about general purpose computing. If you don't think Apple shouldn't have this kind of power then don't use their products and don't support the Mac ecosystem.

higherpurpose 13y ago

Switch to Android and recommend other people to buy only Android phones from now on. Actively discourage people from buying iPhones. It will make a dent.