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> We have to privatize the oceans fisheries. Somehow the world managed to bring many whales back from the brink of extension without throwing up their hands an

> We have to privatize the oceans fisheries. Somehow the world managed to bring many whales back from the brink of extension without throwing up their hands and claiming "tragedy of the commons" or privatizing the ocean. It's not easy, but recognizing this as a global problem and doing the international consensus building needed to solve this problem should be a priority. The solution will probably need to be a mix of commercial work (properly certified fish farms perhaps), public relations/marketing (i.e. convince people this is important), and funded governmental work (i.e. ban importation of fish not collected in a sustainable fashion). Governments have shown several successes (of various degrees) in the last 50 years with various endangered species and resources. From whales and ivory, to bald eagles to clean air. Throwing them out of the mix for solutions seems as short sited as not leveraging market dynamics to solve it.

secstate 13y ago
Come again? North Atlantic Right Whales are already functionally extinct. Fin Whales are still on the endangered list as are Blue Whales. No major whale population has been removed from the endangered list since being placed on it. And yet fisherman still complain bitterly when they're asked to use sinking lines for their lobster pots to help avoid entanglement. Whales are not a great example to trot out of a healthy ocean.
prawn 13y ago
Lobbyists will prevent that from happening. The corporations backing the fishing will have more cause, urgency and financing to run their own PR campaigns. A few years ago, I spent a few days swimming off a boat around the South of Turkey. The ocean seemed pretty lifeless. Here in Australia, you will come across all sorts of fish in almost any sea situation. Over there, I think we only noticed 1-2 species and barely any of them even, and this was amongst bays and rocky areas that would be full of life here. (The good part was swimming around without worrying about sharks though...)

secstate 13y ago

Come again? North Atlantic Right Whales are already functionally extinct. Fin Whales are still on the endangered list as are Blue Whales. No major whale population has been removed from the endangered list since being placed on it. And yet fisherman still complain bitterly when they're asked to use sinking lines for their lobster pots to help avoid entanglement. Whales are not a great example to trot out of a healthy ocean.

prawn 13y ago

Lobbyists will prevent that from happening. The corporations backing the fishing will have more cause, urgency and financing to run their own PR campaigns. A few years ago, I spent a few days swimming off a boat around the South of Turkey. The ocean seemed pretty lifeless. Here in Australia, you will come across all sorts of fish in almost any sea situation. Over there, I think we only noticed 1-2 species and barely any of them even, and this was amongst bays and rocky areas that would be full of life here. (The good part was swimming around without worrying about sharks though...)