Without seeing examples of what they consider "fucking done" and "elegant" it's kind of a moot argument. Maybe they're already writing decent code, or maybe th

Without seeing examples of what they consider "fucking done" and "elegant" it's kind of a moot argument. Maybe they're already writing decent code, or maybe their working on short term projects that just need to be finished and not long standing products that require years of maintenance and ease of upkeep at the added cost of complexity.