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BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack

36 points by tachion 13y ago

willejs 13y ago
Why? Why wont you die FreeBSD?
- octo_t 13y ago
  because diversity in operating systems is healthy? Not everyone subscribes to the 'GPL is best' mindset that permeates parts of the linux ecosystem?
- kchoudhu 13y ago
  Well, in its defense, it's not doing anyone any harm, and actually is a pretty awesome operating system (ZFS is, to put it mildly, delicious). The world would be much poorer if FreeBSD left this mortal coil.
- TallGuyShort 13y ago
  Probably because of silly things like a stable ZFS implementation, jails that are more mature and sophisticated than LXC, a licensing model that is more preferable to many businesses, and one of the best technical documents I've ever seen.
protomyth 13y ago
So, has anyone tried it? How is it working?
darklajid 13y ago
I just recently (two days ago) started to play with NetBSD to get a feeling for BSDs again. Looked at FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD - NetBSD seemed to offer the most current packages (and ports) for my needs, OpenBSD had quite an attitude problem. ZFS on FreeBSD (it seems to be supported on NetBSD, but I haven't found references of it being _used_ in the wild) is a decent reason to give that one a chance again.
- justincormack 13y ago
  ZFS on NetBSD is not really in a usable state alas. Hopefully it willl get fixed soon. If anyone wants to work on it that would be great!
- tachion 13y ago
  Do you mind mentioning which ports/packages are not up to date exactly on FreeBSD?
  - darklajid 13y ago
    I checked only a number of things that are .. well .. relevant for what I want to build. One example that I came up with again now: prosody is on 0.8.2 in FreeBSD [1] and 0.9.1 in NetBSD [2] Nothing critical, not to hit on FreeBSD here, but checking a couple of (weird?) packages I'm interested in NetBSD was always equal or ahead. 1: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=prosody&stype=all http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=prosody&stype=all 2: http://pkgsrc.se/chat/prosody http://pkgsrc.se/chat/prosody
- Bluerise 13y ago
  What about Bitrig?
  - darklajid 13y ago
    Never heard about it before you mentioned it, but I'm not quite sure what they are up to. Forking OpenBSD to .. move it into the direction of NetBSD/FreeBSD? Also, the website is quite sparse and I couldn't find out if they use the same ports tree as OpenBSD. The latter is (see my comment in the same thread here) out of date for a couple of packages I'm interested in. Just like FreeBSD's.

36 points by tachion 13y ago

willejs 13y ago

Why? Why wont you die FreeBSD?

octo_t 13y ago
because diversity in operating systems is healthy? Not everyone subscribes to the 'GPL is best' mindset that permeates parts of the linux ecosystem?
kchoudhu 13y ago
Well, in its defense, it's not doing anyone any harm, and actually is a pretty awesome operating system (ZFS is, to put it mildly, delicious). The world would be much poorer if FreeBSD left this mortal coil.
TallGuyShort 13y ago
Probably because of silly things like a stable ZFS implementation, jails that are more mature and sophisticated than LXC, a licensing model that is more preferable to many businesses, and one of the best technical documents I've ever seen.

protomyth 13y ago

So, has anyone tried it? How is it working?

darklajid 13y ago

I just recently (two days ago) started to play with NetBSD to get a feeling for BSDs again. Looked at FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD - NetBSD seemed to offer the most current packages (and ports) for my needs, OpenBSD had quite an attitude problem. ZFS on FreeBSD (it seems to be supported on NetBSD, but I haven't found references of it being _used_ in the wild) is a decent reason to give that one a chance again.

justincormack 13y ago
ZFS on NetBSD is not really in a usable state alas. Hopefully it willl get fixed soon. If anyone wants to work on it that would be great!
tachion 13y ago
Do you mind mentioning which ports/packages are not up to date exactly on FreeBSD?
- darklajid 13y ago
  I checked only a number of things that are .. well .. relevant for what I want to build. One example that I came up with again now: prosody is on 0.8.2 in FreeBSD [1] and 0.9.1 in NetBSD [2] Nothing critical, not to hit on FreeBSD here, but checking a couple of (weird?) packages I'm interested in NetBSD was always equal or ahead. 1: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=prosody&stype=all http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=prosody&stype=all 2: http://pkgsrc.se/chat/prosody http://pkgsrc.se/chat/prosody
Bluerise 13y ago
What about Bitrig?
- darklajid 13y ago
  Never heard about it before you mentioned it, but I'm not quite sure what they are up to. Forking OpenBSD to .. move it into the direction of NetBSD/FreeBSD? Also, the website is quite sparse and I couldn't find out if they use the same ports tree as OpenBSD. The latter is (see my comment in the same thread here) out of date for a couple of packages I'm interested in. Just like FreeBSD's.