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Since it isn't explained in the article: IIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Te

Since it isn't explained in the article: IIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology IIM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Management http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Management

dhaneshnm 13y ago
It is interesting that, Nadella is from Manipal Institute and not a product of "elite" IIT/IIM system. It is rare to see an Indian born techie, doing well abroad, not from the IIT/IIM system.
- middleclick 13y ago
  Another exception to this is Shantanu Narayen (Adobe CEO) who is not from IIT/IIM.
- e15ctr0n 13y ago
  Sanjay Jha, former CEO of Motorola Mobility and current CEO of GlobalFoundries, is also not from IIT/IIM. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Jha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Jha
- kamaal 13y ago
  >> It is rare to see an Indian born techie, doing well abroad, not from the IIT/IIM system. That's just plain untrue. The problem is IIT alumnus works double time to do their marketing. The IIT entrance exams are super difficult to ensure only the most hard working of all India gets through. This inturn creates a situation where you have all that good people at one place. Its but other wise obvious they do well. But to say the ordinary Indian doesn't do well is plain wrong. Today's India was built by ordinary guys. The IIT'ians well most of them contribute to the growth of countries like US, not India.
_nedR 13y ago
"99 percent of Indian aspirants to get admissions even to an IIT or IIM, but it is far simpler to get into an Ivy League institution. If you don’t get into an IIM, you try Harvard." It is not all that hard to get into an IIM these days actually. IIT is definitely hard at the Undergraduate level (and harder than any US institution) primarily due to the sheer number of students trying to get in. The coursework is also pretty tough. Vinod Khosla( a co-founder of Sun Microsystems) said that after doing his undergrad in IIT Delhi, higher studies in Carnegie Mellon and Stanford were just a cakewalk.
- r0h1n 13y ago
  > It is not all that hard to get into an IIM these days actually. Last year 1,73,735 candidates took the CAT admission test through which the IIMs admit 3,335 MBA students. That's a 1:52 ratio. Now you could argue that not everyone who takes the CAT is an IIM applicant. So let's take IIM Ahmedabad's (slightly dated) data for 2006-08 admission [1]. Of the 1,44,027 who applied to the institute, 273 secured an admission. That's a 1:527 ratio. Harvard Business School's admissions:applications ratio is 1:12 [2] I'm sure you have an explanation of why a 1:527 ratio is "not that hard". [0] http://www.business-standard.com/article/management/boys-rule-cat-results-114011400888_1.html http://www.business-standard.com/article/management/boys-rul... [1] http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/institute/about/key-facts/institute-statistics.html http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/institute/about/key-facts/institu... [2] http://www.hbs.edu/about/facts-and-figures/Pages/mba-statistics.aspx http://www.hbs.edu/about/facts-and-figures/Pages/mba-statist...
  - pavs 13y ago
    I can't help but notice you guys are ignoring the fact that india has a huge population. In the context of indian population does this numbers really look that impressive? Doesn't it also mean that there are not enough highly sought after institutions like IIM or IIT?
  - enscr 13y ago
    A caveat : The pool of IIM or IIT aspirants is a very low signal to noise ratio. It's not just that they are hard to get into, it's the number of people who aren't prepared for it but still pony up the entrance fee. I'm sure that's not the case with Ivy leagues.

dhaneshnm 13y ago

It is interesting that, Nadella is from Manipal Institute and not a product of "elite" IIT/IIM system. It is rare to see an Indian born techie, doing well abroad, not from the IIT/IIM system.

middleclick 13y ago
Another exception to this is Shantanu Narayen (Adobe CEO) who is not from IIT/IIM.
e15ctr0n 13y ago
Sanjay Jha, former CEO of Motorola Mobility and current CEO of GlobalFoundries, is also not from IIT/IIM. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Jha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Jha
kamaal 13y ago
>> It is rare to see an Indian born techie, doing well abroad, not from the IIT/IIM system. That's just plain untrue. The problem is IIT alumnus works double time to do their marketing. The IIT entrance exams are super difficult to ensure only the most hard working of all India gets through. This inturn creates a situation where you have all that good people at one place. Its but other wise obvious they do well. But to say the ordinary Indian doesn't do well is plain wrong. Today's India was built by ordinary guys. The IIT'ians well most of them contribute to the growth of countries like US, not India.

_nedR 13y ago

"99 percent of Indian aspirants to get admissions even to an IIT or IIM, but it is far simpler to get into an Ivy League institution. If you don’t get into an IIM, you try Harvard." It is not all that hard to get into an IIM these days actually. IIT is definitely hard at the Undergraduate level (and harder than any US institution) primarily due to the sheer number of students trying to get in. The coursework is also pretty tough. Vinod Khosla( a co-founder of Sun Microsystems) said that after doing his undergrad in IIT Delhi, higher studies in Carnegie Mellon and Stanford were just a cakewalk.

r0h1n 13y ago
> It is not all that hard to get into an IIM these days actually. Last year 1,73,735 candidates took the CAT admission test through which the IIMs admit 3,335 MBA students. That's a 1:52 ratio. Now you could argue that not everyone who takes the CAT is an IIM applicant. So let's take IIM Ahmedabad's (slightly dated) data for 2006-08 admission [1]. Of the 1,44,027 who applied to the institute, 273 secured an admission. That's a 1:527 ratio. Harvard Business School's admissions:applications ratio is 1:12 [2] I'm sure you have an explanation of why a 1:527 ratio is "not that hard". [0] http://www.business-standard.com/article/management/boys-rule-cat-results-114011400888_1.html http://www.business-standard.com/article/management/boys-rul... [1] http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/institute/about/key-facts/institute-statistics.html http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/institute/about/key-facts/institu... [2] http://www.hbs.edu/about/facts-and-figures/Pages/mba-statistics.aspx http://www.hbs.edu/about/facts-and-figures/Pages/mba-statist...
- pavs 13y ago
  I can't help but notice you guys are ignoring the fact that india has a huge population. In the context of indian population does this numbers really look that impressive? Doesn't it also mean that there are not enough highly sought after institutions like IIM or IIT?
- enscr 13y ago
  A caveat : The pool of IIM or IIT aspirants is a very low signal to noise ratio. It's not just that they are hard to get into, it's the number of people who aren't prepared for it but still pony up the entrance fee. I'm sure that's not the case with Ivy leagues.