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When deciding on which open-source tool to use, it's often important to look at the popularity of the various choices. Take a look at the Google Trends for the

When deciding on which open-source tool to use, it's often important to look at the popularity of the various choices. Take a look at the Google Trends for the leading contenders: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=angularjs%2C%20emberjs%2C%20backbonejs%2C%20flightjs&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=angularjs%2C%20emberj... It's mind-boggling how much farther ahead angular is. Then again, angular is pretty awesome and have been a big fan for over a year now.

KaoruAoiShiho 13y ago
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone%2C%20ember%2C%20angular&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone%2C%20ember%2...
- adamnemecek 13y ago
  None of the search terms ember, angular or backbone mean only the javascript framework, therefore your results are most likely skewed.
  - KaoruAoiShiho 13y ago
    His are even more skewed, most people don't search for the terms as he's using them. There's also stuff like "backbone js". The only thing I'm proving is that the search trends are really really bad indicator.
    - sehr 13y ago
      With '.js' : http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone.js%2C%20angular.js%2C%20ember.js&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone.js%2C%20angu... With 'js': http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone%20js%2C%20angular%20js%2C%20ember%20js&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone%20js%2C%20an... Search trends do indeed, suck.
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altcognito 13y ago
The numbers are so small it's hard to draw real conclusions. Outside of hiring new devs with an existing skillset, what's the importance of looking at popularity? (edit: good responses, thank you)
- macspoofing 13y ago
  If you're going to have a dependency on a framework, it's nice to have it be actively developed so that you benefit from bug fixes and performance improvements (not to mention community developed framework plugins, extensions or libraries).
- jonny_eh 13y ago
  A framework gains value from its ecosystem of support. A big advantage of nodejs is all the packages available on npm. With Angular, a big advantage are all the great third-party directives and services (i.e. plugins).
csallen 13y ago
I prefer looking at the projects being built with each library: Ember: http://emberjs.com/ember-users/ http://emberjs.com/ember-users/ Angular: http://builtwith.angularjs.org/ http://builtwith.angularjs.org/
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- krebby 13y ago
  Aside from Square and Groupon, nobody big is building any complex apps around either of these technologies. The question has been and remains: if ember and angular are so great, where are the real use cases?
  - pm90 13y ago
    They're still pretty young, tbh. Most major web companies will probably stick with their existing frameworks, which they are pretty comfortable with by now. Future websites might portray the popularity more accurately.
  - ithkuil 13y ago
    http://blog.angularjs.org/2012/06/doubleclick-super-powered-by-angularjs.html?m=1 http://blog.angularjs.org/2012/06/doubleclick-super-powered-...
Touche 13y ago
Angular is developed by Google and has several developer-celebrities evangelizing it on the web daily, speaking at conferences ever other week, etc. It would be shocking if Angular weren't the most popular framework.
- liviu 13y ago
  That's because poor Angular documentation. People start googling like crazy to find what they need.
  - jbeja 13y ago
    Agree.
  - stana 13y ago
    Interesting point. And projects like Django probably not very 'popular' because of good documentation.
    - jbeja 13y ago
      Agree. What set apart a project from another is the quality and amount of documentation, also tutorials, articles, books and reviews(it help a lot on the popularity context).
  - andy_ppp 13y ago
    Brilliant point; it's not just that the docs are poor, inherently the framework is so obscure that you need to either be an Angular savant or constantly Googling only to find half the inbuilt functionality cannot be made responsive!
- jonny_eh 13y ago
  And yet GWT never caught on like this. Just because Google's backing a project it does not guarantee success.
  - camus2 13y ago
candybar 13y ago
For some perspective, I added node.js and removed flightjs (not sure what it is) http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=angularjs,+extjs,+ember.js#q=angularjs%2C%20node.js%2C%20ember.js%2C%20backbone.js&date=1%2F2012%2026m&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=angularjs,+extjs,+emb... As for arguments that popularity doesn't matter, well transferable skills do matter and ecosystems and communities do.
- Bahamut 13y ago
  Flight.js is a microframework by Twitter based on DOM eventing - it requires jQuery and Require.js to use it.
nailer 13y ago
I've used Angular for five weeks and ractive for five months. I Googled about 30x more frequently when using Angular.
- andy_ppp 13y ago
  Nailed it - Angular is horrible IMO. Takes SOOO long to relearn everything then you find some of the inbuilt tags just don't work on mobile or responsively and are difficult to extend. The debugging is a joke too.
subsection1h 13y ago
I think a better way of comparing the popularity of dev tools is to search for them at GitHub and compare the results: https://github.com/search?q=Angular&type=Repositories&s=stars https://github.com/search?q=Angular&type=Repositories&s=star... https://github.com/search?q=Ember&type=Repositories&s=stars https://github.com/search?q=Ember&type=Repositories&s=stars

KaoruAoiShiho 13y ago

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone%2C%20ember%2C%20angular&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone%2C%20ember%2...

adamnemecek 13y ago
None of the search terms ember, angular or backbone mean only the javascript framework, therefore your results are most likely skewed.
- KaoruAoiShiho 13y ago
  His are even more skewed, most people don't search for the terms as he's using them. There's also stuff like "backbone js". The only thing I'm proving is that the search trends are really really bad indicator.
  - sehr 13y ago
    With '.js' : http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone.js%2C%20angular.js%2C%20ember.js&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone.js%2C%20angu... With 'js': http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone%20js%2C%20angular%20js%2C%20ember%20js&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=backbone%20js%2C%20an... Search trends do indeed, suck.
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altcognito 13y ago

The numbers are so small it's hard to draw real conclusions. Outside of hiring new devs with an existing skillset, what's the importance of looking at popularity? (edit: good responses, thank you)

macspoofing 13y ago
If you're going to have a dependency on a framework, it's nice to have it be actively developed so that you benefit from bug fixes and performance improvements (not to mention community developed framework plugins, extensions or libraries).
jonny_eh 13y ago
A framework gains value from its ecosystem of support. A big advantage of nodejs is all the packages available on npm. With Angular, a big advantage are all the great third-party directives and services (i.e. plugins).

csallen 13y ago

I prefer looking at the projects being built with each library: Ember: http://emberjs.com/ember-users/ http://emberjs.com/ember-users/ Angular: http://builtwith.angularjs.org/ http://builtwith.angularjs.org/

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krebby 13y ago
Aside from Square and Groupon, nobody big is building any complex apps around either of these technologies. The question has been and remains: if ember and angular are so great, where are the real use cases?
- pm90 13y ago
  They're still pretty young, tbh. Most major web companies will probably stick with their existing frameworks, which they are pretty comfortable with by now. Future websites might portray the popularity more accurately.
- ithkuil 13y ago
  http://blog.angularjs.org/2012/06/doubleclick-super-powered-by-angularjs.html?m=1 http://blog.angularjs.org/2012/06/doubleclick-super-powered-...

Touche 13y ago

Angular is developed by Google and has several developer-celebrities evangelizing it on the web daily, speaking at conferences ever other week, etc. It would be shocking if Angular weren't the most popular framework.

liviu 13y ago
That's because poor Angular documentation. People start googling like crazy to find what they need.
- jbeja 13y ago
  Agree.
- stana 13y ago
  Interesting point. And projects like Django probably not very 'popular' because of good documentation.
  - jbeja 13y ago
    Agree. What set apart a project from another is the quality and amount of documentation, also tutorials, articles, books and reviews(it help a lot on the popularity context).
- andy_ppp 13y ago
  Brilliant point; it's not just that the docs are poor, inherently the framework is so obscure that you need to either be an Angular savant or constantly Googling only to find half the inbuilt functionality cannot be made responsive!
jonny_eh 13y ago
And yet GWT never caught on like this. Just because Google's backing a project it does not guarantee success.
- camus2 13y ago

candybar 13y ago

For some perspective, I added node.js and removed flightjs (not sure what it is) http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=angularjs,+extjs,+ember.js#q=angularjs%2C%20node.js%2C%20ember.js%2C%20backbone.js&date=1%2F2012%2026m&cmpt=q http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=angularjs,+extjs,+emb... As for arguments that popularity doesn't matter, well transferable skills do matter and ecosystems and communities do.

Bahamut 13y ago
Flight.js is a microframework by Twitter based on DOM eventing - it requires jQuery and Require.js to use it.

nailer 13y ago

I've used Angular for five weeks and ractive for five months. I Googled about 30x more frequently when using Angular.

andy_ppp 13y ago
Nailed it - Angular is horrible IMO. Takes SOOO long to relearn everything then you find some of the inbuilt tags just don't work on mobile or responsively and are difficult to extend. The debugging is a joke too.

subsection1h 13y ago

I think a better way of comparing the popularity of dev tools is to search for them at GitHub and compare the results: https://github.com/search?q=Angular&type=Repositories&s=stars https://github.com/search?q=Angular&type=Repositories&s=star... https://github.com/search?q=Ember&type=Repositories&s=stars https://github.com/search?q=Ember&type=Repositories&s=stars