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>It's not Microsoft that was/is bad, it's having any single entity have too much power. I can't come to the same conclusion. Just look at how much innovation h
by xmonkee 13y ago
>It's not Microsoft that was/is bad, it's having any single entity have too much power.
I can't come to the same conclusion. Just look at how much innovation has happened to areas that Microsoft dominated as opposed to those dominated by Google. Google basically sets fire to whatever it gets into. Look at how much they've enriched the developer space in those areas. Everything Microsoft is still stuck in the early 2000s.
- sdegutis 13y agoI'm guessing you haven't tried MS's latest desktop platform developer suite?
- xmonkee 13y agoDo you mean Visual Studio or their languages? If the former, that's a tool. They make good tools, no doubt, but closed tools aren't really conducive to open innovation. They've made good languages, but again I wouldn't want to get tied down to a closed platform.
- unknownian 13y agoMicrosoft has done a good amount of interesting R&D.
- BlackDeath3 13y agoYeah, I don't really get that above post at all. Perhaps it's just because I haven't strayed too far into the web/mobile space (Dart, Android applications, etc.), but when I think of the "programming space", I think of Microsoft (VS, C#, XNA, .NET, etc.) much quicker than I do Google.
- Mikeb85 13y agoDidn't Microsoft deprecate XNA? So now Monogame is taking over? When I think 'programming space' I think open-source - C, C++, Java, Mono, Javascript, Python, Ruby, R, Lisps, Rust, Dart, Go, Haskell, OCaml, etc... Google doesn't immediately come to mind because they just use and give back to the OSS space, not caring too much to lock developers in.
- ygra 13y agoTell that people who started projects in GWT ;-) (which by itself is quite horribile as it's Java, but not quite Java and you can't use most of the libs out there because the class library is very crippled)
- gress 13y agoHang on - how has google enriched the developer space?
- aragot 13y agoGuava is the main piece I think about. GWT? Guice? What else?
- gress 13y agoHardly setting fire to the world. Really nothing by comparison to what FOSS has accomplished without them.
- vetinari 13y agoAngular? Repo? Popular web browser that does not suck? Being a force behind new HTML5 APIs?
- gress 13y agoPopular web browser that doesn't suck was already taken care of. HTML5 Apis are a collaborative effort. Angular is a novel entrant that is one among hundreds. I'm not trying to suggest that Google isn't contributing positively to the dev community, but I strongly dispute the idea that they have enriched it in any way proportionally to the way they've profited from it.
- outside1234 13y agoyou don't use Dart or Go? Actually, neither do I. Its funny, because when they do hit on something like Node.js (built with v8), Google ignores it. Its sort of puzzling actually.
- gress 13y agoI actually do use go, and I like it, but it's hardly setting the world on fire.