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I'm not knowledgeable enough about economics yet but I find it strange that the same rules don't apply whether we're talking about capital, goods or individuals

I'm not knowledgeable enough about economics yet but I find it strange that the same rules don't apply whether we're talking about capital, goods or individuals. If we agree that exchange benefits both parties, why not fully open everything? Why do "businesses demand graduates from India and China"?

davidw 19y ago
It would be nice, and I'd like to see the world move that way, but there are practical issues. If a million people from China or India descended all of a sudden on, say, Denmark, there would be chaos.
- mynameishere 19y ago
  all of a sudden You're right. The wholesale replacement of one people for another by bureaucratic fiat should be done gradually, so as not to alarm the sheep.
  - davidw 19y ago
    What are you talking about? Could we leave the "sheeple" talk on reddit, please?
- sriram_sun 19y ago
  I'm Indian. Got a grad degree from a school in the US. I work in the US. High Tech Migrant Labourer (TM). H1B. Skill Set: you name it I got it ;). Most Indians I know would stick to English speaking countries, but the Chinese are a little more flexible as they have to pick up a new language anyways. Indians don't really have as many reasons as the Chinese to leave the motherland and stay abroad as politically, it is a lot more "free" than China. Both countries are finding it hard to find graduates to employ even in their own countries. So the exodus is not going to happen anytime soon. For right or wrong my perception is that most of EU is not socially evolved enough to become a multi-cultural community like the US (at least the big cities). Most of America is not either. France, no path to citizenship after generations of settling there? No thanks! So I think Denmark is safe for now! But, OTOH, the good thing about being a high tech migrant labourer is aaah choices... choices.. :). If the dollar tanks, now there will only be more countries to choose from.
  - davidw 19y ago
    Like I said, I support the free movement of people, goods and money. I'm american and live in Europe, and being able to stay here legally was actually quite a hassle, so I have an inkling of what a problem it is for some people. The practical problem though, as I said, was the large amount of people in a small amount of time that could potentially happen if you completely threw the borders open. 1 million people in India or China is a very small percentage of the population. In a country like Denmark (just as an example), it would represent 20% of the population. That's not likely to happen any time soon, but hopefully we will keep moving in that direction over time.

davidw 19y ago

It would be nice, and I'd like to see the world move that way, but there are practical issues. If a million people from China or India descended all of a sudden on, say, Denmark, there would be chaos.

mynameishere 19y ago
all of a sudden You're right. The wholesale replacement of one people for another by bureaucratic fiat should be done gradually, so as not to alarm the sheep.
- davidw 19y ago
  What are you talking about? Could we leave the "sheeple" talk on reddit, please?
sriram_sun 19y ago
I'm Indian. Got a grad degree from a school in the US. I work in the US. High Tech Migrant Labourer (TM). H1B. Skill Set: you name it I got it ;). Most Indians I know would stick to English speaking countries, but the Chinese are a little more flexible as they have to pick up a new language anyways. Indians don't really have as many reasons as the Chinese to leave the motherland and stay abroad as politically, it is a lot more "free" than China. Both countries are finding it hard to find graduates to employ even in their own countries. So the exodus is not going to happen anytime soon. For right or wrong my perception is that most of EU is not socially evolved enough to become a multi-cultural community like the US (at least the big cities). Most of America is not either. France, no path to citizenship after generations of settling there? No thanks! So I think Denmark is safe for now! But, OTOH, the good thing about being a high tech migrant labourer is aaah choices... choices.. :). If the dollar tanks, now there will only be more countries to choose from.
- davidw 19y ago
  Like I said, I support the free movement of people, goods and money. I'm american and live in Europe, and being able to stay here legally was actually quite a hassle, so I have an inkling of what a problem it is for some people. The practical problem though, as I said, was the large amount of people in a small amount of time that could potentially happen if you completely threw the borders open. 1 million people in India or China is a very small percentage of the population. In a country like Denmark (just as an example), it would represent 20% of the population. That's not likely to happen any time soon, but hopefully we will keep moving in that direction over time.